Karate vs Wing Chun - French Interpretations

A very awesome match with a karateka and a wing chunner. This is from a French channel that many of you have recommended we commentate and react to. Big shoutout Karate Bushido Officiel. Let's see what lessons we can learn from these two practitioners of their respective martial arts. Leave your comments and let me know what you saw! Update 2023: these guys didn't seem to appreciate this critique, so I'm not featuring them anymore.

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Timecodes:
0:00 Initial reaction
2:20 Slow motion analysis (50% speed)
6:15 For any French speakers

Im the Karate Guy of the video. Thanks for your reviews 🥋

[j.murphy]

A Wing Chun guy who takes his shirt off, my entire worldview is shaken.

[mbhofficiel]

Hello, I’m Mehdi Ben Hassen
I’am the wing chun man on this video,
low kicks were forbidden to me, it was a constraint…
But I accepted the challenge 😉

Thanks you for sharing 🙏🏼

[magicman]

The most amazing part about this fight is seeing a wing chun guy that actually has muscles. I'm shocked

[FightCommentary]

The French channel we covered is called Karaté Bushido Officiel. You can find a link in the description or end cards! Anyone that speaks French, please let them know if would love to interview them if they speak English!

[anastasia_w]

As a wing chun student I'm also confused by his wide stance

[individeo]

Yes, the guy in the back as the ref is the host of the channel. He speaks english with an accent but you can have a conversation.

[deanamodeo]

Don't worry these guys couldn't hurt themselves let alone eachother.

[tueozic]

Chun is abstract, leaving what people consider " wing chun" to vary tremendously. Couple things that seperate good chun from guys just using martial or fighting without the art side. Covering while attacking or defending while offense. See how guys throws a round kick and leaves himself open up top or a straight or a wild over hand while leaving the other hand low. Always open, no offense not saying anything bad about him hes in there fighting but this is what seperates chun from just fighting or brawling. Also attacking from the shortest distance in chun say his front hand not his rear when the guy gets in range not only is it slower do to it takes more time to get the guy but its telegraphed. 99 percent of so called wing chun guys come in with a round kicks and wild hooks and tend to be striaght and linear never cutting angles.

[Skycube]

Some of the WC Guy's moves arent even Wing Chun, it's like he dons the WC guard and stance but will just throw it away whenever he felt like it

[pn]

The it’s the channel Karaté Bushido and the host is GregMMA a very funny guy. Great content. They also do “random attacker in the street” style video where they give boxing gloves to random people in the street and ask them to surprise attack.

[kevinlobos]

It looks like both of them are pretty new to sparring. The wing chuy dude made the usual mistake of trying to chain punch way out of meassure. At least he used some traditional blocks/parries like bong sao, and could absorb part of the damage from some of karate guys punches with some framing/chi sao.

[skipsch]

5:41 Wing chun guy was gonna do some parkour on karate guy but got denied

[CaribouVirtuel]

I think Wing Chun guy is from Didier Beddar school in Paris (William Cheung lineage). Actually, the ref is Greg from Karate Bushido Officiel Youtube channel, which is pretty popular among French speaking people, but I don't know if he speaks English.

[Eggbread]

The wing chun guy who doesn't use wing chun...

[anteros]

Yes, they speak english. Karaté Bushido is a very cool YT channel

[cahallo]

Point karateka don't kick legs cuz it doesn't score unless you trip him so if they kick it's a calf or even ankle kick.
Also they do punch their faces quiet a lot it's just that there being basically no combos tucking your shin makes no sense because evading is much better than blocking because it's only AT MOST a 1 2 and you need your hands low because you need to block the body too, so at most you see tucked chins very up close in a phillyshell esque position (it has a japanese name I forgor).
You should check some full contact karate (not kyokushin, that's knockdown karate; which is full contact too but that ain't the name) it's basically uninterrumpted point karate with judo throws ocasionally. Very similar to the kenpo stuff you showed the other day.

[kaybee]

I see why Boxing is the Ultimate FIGHTING SPORT! They Both needed Boxing skills inside.

[nicolasleclercq]

I follow this Channel and there is a lot content. They make pranks to martial students attaking them in the street. They try self defense against normal people. They tried self defense against knife working with police and military. This proved even a trained soldier dies against a knife, etc…really cool Channel. And Greg, the host, speaks english.

[skipsch]

When people don't pay attention to openings like with that lead leg thing at the start I can't help but think it's because they've got a particular fight agenda in mind like going for the core or face or something. Whenever I played street fighter I'd ignore a lot of openings/opportunities to strictly stick with special moves since they're cooler. I bet these two were just being way tentative though n feeling eachother out a bit first