Jordan Peterson: P.s.y.c.h.o.pathic traits, antisocial behavior & hedonism

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In middle school, I was bullied by everyone, not just the designated bullies. I was spit on, had books dropped on my head, pushed into lockers, pushed around in the gym locker room, picked last for every team, cut in the lunch line, had lunch trays stolen from me, had pencils and binders ripped out of my hands, and was generally treated like trash. I also didn't have a single friend, and I wasn't enrolled in any extracurricular activities. I never fought back, nor did I ever report any of the abuse. Apparently everyone could sense something in me that made them think, "He's an easy target." It wasn't until long after I graduated high school that my family learned of all this, and even then I was hesitant to tell them. This is where much of my current social anxiety and obsessive–compulsiveness comes from. Speaking from experience, I can say with absolute certainty that "not stooping to the bullies' level"—pacifism and nonviolence—do not work. If you (or a young relative) are being bullied in school, you _must_ fight back. You cannot try to ignore the abuse; that just makes it worse. For your mental health's sake, you must fight back. Even if you end up losing the fight, you at least made the statement that you are willing to physically defend yourself.

AidenRKrone
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Apparently I need to watch Pinocchio again.

wntu
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"Every ideal is a judge" I like that

thecsslife
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Machiavelli gets a bad wrap. his aim was to arm and educate the naive and victim prone so they could understand how vicious people can be.

SteveB-nxuo
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I am so glad I found this man. I am addicted to his videos. It's as if I can feel my brain growing as I watch him. How fortunate are we to have the opportunity to access this kind of information instead of relying on the alphabet networks to entertain our minds with drivel.

gardener
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His story about standing up to bullies was absolutely true in my case.
When I was 9 or 10 a kid in my was always pestering, challenging and bullying me, saying he'd beat me up, eat me even. He'd follow me home from school, yelling these things at me (from across the street).
So the first time I stood up to this was quit close to home. I turned to him and said: "I'll just drop off my bag and I'll be back."
When I came back, he was gone, much to my surprise. He had invested a lot of time and effort in bullying me and telling me he wanted to fight me, so I was surprised he didn't take this opportunity.
The second time, still relatively close to home, I just put my bag down behind me and said: "Ok, come on then."
Which made him scowl and shut up and walk away. And he never bothered me again.
An other time was in high school. where a guy kept pushing, pushing pushing (verbally) until I finally lashed out in anger (physically). Actually a very non-expert blow to his stomach. I always avoid fights (which is not necessarily a good character trait), so I have zero fighting skill. He never bothered me again either.
These bullies I've encountered are cowards. Perhaps they feel very insecure and have to put down others to feel better themselves.
Standing up to a bully may give you anxiety in that moment, but the reward may be a better life for you.
Disclaimer: I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

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My dad grew up in the 50s and 60s and said he and his friends from the dojo would go to bars specifically to pick out and take apart the psychos who prey on the weak or kind.

tmcleanful
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I was getting bullied for having homemade clothes one time. And I listened to things she was saying, and then I realized, "she's kinda stupid!" That was an amazing moment. I still felt bad because I didn't have confidence, but I had one little thing that helped me from being bullied anymore by her.

Lisarata
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Bullies learn early on 90% of fighting is being willing to throw a punch, even if no punches are actually thrown.

m.kriddick
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When you're 6'7", everybody becomes a friend.

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"So what you're saying is you murdered several children in Montreal and repaired your fence with their sun-bleached bones."

professorseventy-five
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" i am the son of a shepherd ed boi " now i know why ralph was so bad ass

xDsilentGhost
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let a man be judged by what he does with what he has...pour all your meaning into your life BUT when it all falls away through no fault of ur own then you must be able to walk on with pure acceptance. THATS the hard one.

kevinmalone
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The point about amusement parks was really interesting. I wrote a poem about my life with Cluster Bs and all the metaphors were rollercoasters, halls of mirrors, tunnels of love, funhouse lights and overall the scary, horrifying, disorienting, experience of "excitement" that I got programmed to pursue and which led me into so many relationships with PDs even after I left my family of origin. Nail on head!

dianarosalindland
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If I had a professor like this I would never miss a class.

josephmartorello
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Bully's don't like to pick on people that can hurt them back

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"Stupid amusements" AKA: getting drunk/high every day, porn, and mindless tv. These are just a few that immediately come to mind.

shanehaney
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I am a bully, not only was I violent physically I was more brutal verbally and found that I could do more harm when emotionally and mentally breaking people. It took me seeing my own behaviour in my son to realise the damage I did. I have also spent the last 4 years to fix my own behaviour so that I can teach my son a better more considerate way. In many ways I fail daily. I just hope that my actions now can spare my son the difficulty I experience daily.

JohanWilsenach
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THIS IS SO TRUE!! I use to be a bouncer and as a result of a traumatic childhood, I cant stand watching people getting bullied and harassed. To hell if I get hurt; I've survived hell. I have never been more selfless and brave when I see someone helpless under the weight of an oppressing bully.

I've mastered the stare down. People think its a game of chicken or who looks meaner. Oh no. That's what gets you punched. Only someone who's never been in a fight acts like that.

What really unnerves people is a calm demeanor of pure acceptance while looking in to their eyes like your looking though them. You cant shake. You cant show any emotion but pure acceptance for what is about to happen.

Eyes un-moving. Unblinking.

Since I discovered this method back in 2002, I haven't had to put my fists to work since.

However, I've noticed that people who are brave enough to throw a fist don't puff a chest and also walk around with that look of acceptance. However, they give off a vibe that begs someone to start something.

edmontontech
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I went 60k into student debt to learn about pinnochio. worth it.

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