Jordan Peterson - Don't Be A Psychopath

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is a clinical psychologist and professor emeritus at the University of Toronto. From 1993 to 1998 he served as assistant and then associate professor of psychology at Harvard.

He spent fifteen years writing Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief (1999; released in June 2018 as a now bestselling author-read audiobook). Maps of Meaning is a scholarly investigation into the nature of narrative and religious thought, the structure of perception, the regulation of emotion, and the motivation for atrocity in the service of ideology.

Dr. Peterson also penned the popular global bestsellers Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life & 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, #1 for nonfiction in 2018 in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, the Netherlands, Brazil and Norway, both translated into some 50 languages. The latter book has sold more than five million copies; the former, released in mid 2021, 750,000.
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[gamedemon]

All the parents who came to see their kids graduate: 👁👄👁

[vrzM]

"Hey, there's gonna be girls here, don't say anything weird"
Bro:

[sportello]

I was recently diagnosed with antisocial disorder, and I have to say there is nothing more helpful than learning from the mistakes of others.

[Societyavoider]

Totally agree with some personal experience

[buzznfrog]

Just described the elites in a nutshell

[Adventure-of-your-Life]

It's hard to tell between being a psychopath and just trying to move up in the world. Sometimes I feel like I am a psychopath because I'm 30 and unemployed but I'm trying to put my life together slowly. It's tough when you don't feel like you have the support you've need your whole life... I really like professor Peterson though.

[FranekCyganek]

trzeba być wszech-nad-popierniczonym i wszech-nad-nudnym
a czuć się wszech-nad-normalnym i wszech-nad-ciekawym!

[brainnfire]

So... Just stop it? Why did I never thought of that?

[Leocardion]

I don’t think anyone wants to be a psychopath

[zeynand]

They don't learn from their own experience. What does that mean? They didn't build experience? Or they didn't learn from mistakes or good practices? I don't know exactly what he means with learning from experience.

[myheatgoesboomboomboom]

You can train yourself to have no emotions but than youl finde that your staring at a peice of meat in the mirror psychopaths are sad creatuers

[alexchudilovski]

In don't mind sharing my perspective on things. I would love to see collaboration!

You say they betray I say they reflect what is there. There is a probability, I have not done my research therefore I am guessing, probability that what they are doing, betray out reflect, is not productive and of value. Question is it easy to do, can value be extracted out of their, in my opinion, hard work.

They don't learn from experience, definitely not from the perspective of non psychopath. Though I believe there is a perspective, a reality they live in. In a sense, same can be said about not psychopath, they don't learn from experience, but that psychopath saying xD

[therisashow]

I can’t agree with his statements. To reduce psychopaths to someone still living with their mom, and at most not making anything of their own is just too simple. Psychopaths are not mostly unsuccessful. There’s studies that show that psychopaths and people with high psychopathic tendencies are very likely to get into leadership positions in most societies. They’re good at manipulation, and yes, sometimes can be violent, but that’s only the ones who are “unsuccessful psychopaths”.

From what I’ve been learning about psychopaths and psychopathy, he’s not really correct. There are different levels of psychopathy (shallow emotional responses, lack of empathy, impulsivity, and an increased likelihood for antisocial behaviour), especially when it occurs with comorbidities like narcissism (an unreasonably high sense of their own importance) and/or machiavellianism (cunningness, the ability to be manipulative, and a drive to use whatever means necessary to gain power). Together, psychopathy, narcissism and machiavellianism form what scientists call the Dark Triad. The Dark Triad is kind of an oversimplification to describe people who have a combination of 2 or 3 of these traits and how they present in society.

The most successful psychopaths are usually not just straight up psychopath-dominant. Too much of psychopathic behaviour is noticeable in society, as their desire for power and lack of empathy can come off as violence. Pairing the psychopath’s desire for power with the planning behaviours of machiavellianism and/or the charming behaviours of narcissism, you get a person who succeeds in acting on their psychopathic desires through actions that are considered normal in society. If they’re good at planning, they’re often in greater places of leadership like politics or business. If they’re more charming and attention seeking, they might do well in entertainment, or other social spaces where they are the centre of attention. If they lack planning skills, they’re not likely to be as powerful, but they’re still likely to be in some sort of prominent position to satisfy their power desire.

The YouTube channel BigThink has a video called “The world's biggest problem? Powerful psychopaths” in which Professor Brian Klass explains in plain language how these traits show up in society, and are more prevalent than what Jordan says is just 3% of the population. 3% of the population of the USA is 10, 199, 896. 10 million people is not a small amount. That’s 22% more than the population of New York City. Also, that’s just an estimate. The 3% is probably a median of a certain population that was tested to confirm the prevalence of people with psychopathy in that specific population. If they did the same test in Washington D.C., I’m sure that percentage would rise significantly, because that’s one of the most desirable locations in the country to obtain and sustain power dynamics… At least for successful psychopaths. Less successful psychopaths probably won’t leave their small home town, but might be in a very high role of leadership in the business or municipality.

You can’t just reduce most psychopaths to people who still live with their mom. They are still functioning humans who lack the genetic code that keeps the empathy “switch” turned on in their brains. They learn to turn their empathy on and off depending on the situation (this was studied with brain scans looking at the part of the brain that deals with empathy). What he’s calling as unsuccessful psychopaths are just that: unsuccessful. The successful ones are very likely seamlessly integrated into society, with very high manipulative skills to increase the chances of gaining access to power. To say they can’t do anything on their own is reductive. Society can’t be called a society if it doesn’t have many groups of people working together to create common living standards. Psychopaths learn how to cooperate in society just like everyone else. The difference is, they don’t “feel” the same way about their position in society the same way that most people do.

[aliacampbell]

Do they really not learn from their mistakes? Isn’t that also a myth?

[FranekCyganek]

nie bądźta psychopotami i nie bądźta nie-psy-cho-po-tami

[nicolacamposarcone]

And there is no way for a psychopath to be actually competent?

[SKn]

Why are the clinically the most motivated by power?

[DNixon]

Tell that to the politicians running the world.😂

[jinsuk]

they believe in power and position to be reasonable factors for manipulation of others. so, if they lose them, they deem themselves as deserved to be manipulated by others. so to get out of that, they cling onto any remnants of strength they have to retain that position of power. even children of psychopathic parents learn from this, and deem themselves and inferior and shameful due to their parents constantly flexing their muscles and unconsciencely laughing at their chidlren's weaknesses. to get out of that, anxiety is formed and constantly deem themselves as 'not good enough' even during the process of getting better, change does not come in an instant, having to constantly look at themselves as 'not good enough', they start to mock and hurt themselves mentally which further exacerbates the process. in the end, they just give up and say i don't like success, i love torturing myself, i'm stupid.

[justiceall]

There is ALOT of psychopaths in this world