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[E-Mobility-Today]

Hello Björn, you are absolutely right, the battery preconditioning is poorly programmed by Hyundai/Kia. I have now preconditioned my EV6 over 130 times and it took some time before it worked reliably, for this reason:
In addition to the known conditions communicated by Hyundai / Kia, the car must meet one requirement: It must recognize the desired charging station as a charging station and not "just" as an address. What sounds logical and simple has some pitfalls in practice.
The best solution in advance is to let the navigation system do the route planning, including charging stops, as you did in the video at the end.
Since this option currently only works in the IONIQ 6 with the new software or in the IONIQ 5 / Kia EV6 only in maintenance mode, my tip for cars without route navigation with automatic charging planning:
1. In the filter for the POI charging stations, set "all operators" and the "charging stations" DC and HPC.
(Only if the charging station would be selected by the vehicle through this filter does it recognize manually or previously saved charging stations as such and not as an address. If you change the filter settings and exclude e.g. IONITY as the operator, it is no longer preconditioned when you use an IONITY - HPCs!)
2. Select the charging station you want as the destination in the car navigation system. You can do this as you did using the map and zoom in to 400m on the map or simply enter the address.
2a. Now use the menu item at the bottom left in the navigation view to select the item „Surrounding information“ and then POI category. In this category you then select charging stations. Now you will be shown up to 30 charging stations, but you only want to see the ones at the destination, select this filter on the left for destination.
The filter selection now shows you the 30 charging stations that are near your destination, i.e. the charging station.
Ideally, you will find the previously selected charging station there, select it again. If you cannot find the selected charging station because Hyundai / Kia does not have it in the system or the car system or the charging station is currently offline, then select the nearest station that is just before the desired station so that the battery is preconditioned in time.
Important. In the best case, the POI icon of the charging station should be green, which means that the charging station is free and has been 100% recognized.
If you click on the small „i“ in the circle next to the operator name, e.g. IONITY, you will see the HPCs status report. The charging station can be free, occupied (also partially) or unknown. If the status is unknown, I would always check whether the preconditioning starts, it usually does so because the status is usually updated with the driving time.
2 B. Now set the charging station again as a target, e.g. from the „i“ submenu, and the preconditioning will start.

As a small rule of thumb, the coldest cell is warmed up by 1 degree every 3 minutes. So if the coldest cell is 10 degrees, it takes 33 minutes to heat the battery to the maximum auto-shutoff value of 21 degrees.
With the help of this rule you can estimate when the preconditioning should start. If it does not, select a new charging station which is free and nearby your target.

A few more tips from the bag of tricks:
1. You only get the optimal charging speed in winter, i.e. also the 18 minutes from 10%-80% with preconditioning, if you really run the battery down to 10% SOC or less. Because the battery is only preheated to 21 degrees and the optimal charging power is only available from 25 degrees, you need the low start so that the battery can build up heat early enough. If you only start with 20% or more percent, this no longer works, although the peak charging power of 242kW is sometimes kept at optimal temperatures up to 60% SOC.
2. If you drive long distances in Germany, you can keep the temperature in the battery at 25 degrees or higher at an average speed of 165 km/h on the Autobahn and thus prevent it from cooling down.
3. When charging, switch off the air conditioning / heating and only switch on the seat heating, otherwise the battery will receive too little heating output or no heating output and will not be adequately cooled in summer.
4. Especially when there is snow, you should check whether the cooling flaps in the front can be moved. To prevent the battery from overheating for too long, the car opens the ventilation flaps when the cell temperature exceeds 45 degrees and cools the battery down.


I hope the information will help you and others.

Best regards

Dirk

[b_]

Every car needs a "preheat now" button. Legacy car manufacturers are not great at keeping their maps up to date and preheating for fast charging makes such a massive difference.

[bentaxelrod]

My AWD JUST charged at 17 deg C in 20 minutes without battery preheating, 10 to 80 %.
Highway range is 285 to 295 miles at 100kph.
Been watching you Bjorn since you first started and really appreciate your work.
I haven’t noticed any movement in the steering wheel while in auto steer.
The Ioniq 6 is better than I expected so far.

[junehanzawa]

You are 100% correct. The battery preheating should last to at least 10% SOC or even 5%. But that should just be a simple software over the air tweak. Hopefully they are watching.

[georgepelton]

Bjørn, I appreciate the "map and stats" for each leg of the journey. Just like the original Nimber Task road trip days in MF.  It would be great to have for your family road trips as well.

[thenetworkarchitectchannel]

I love watching EV road trips in Scandinavia. The charging infra is to die for. Here in the U.S. we are told kempower is coming to save the day. Right now, going on an EV road trip in a non-Tesla is kinda like BASE jumping and not knowing if the physics will work out or if you will go kersplat.

[MrBucko]

You also need to select the HPC via the POI category in the Nav to ensure it pre-heats as you want.

[thomasrueesch]

So let's hope that Hyundai actualy is working on an update, and make it as great as it could be...many thanks for the great test and contribution

[adibu]

There are no pressure sensors in the steering wheel. Moving the steering wheel will prompt the driver to counteract and the car will acknowledge the driver is awake. I own a Kia EV 6 and this is the normal expected behaviour, the movement of the steering wheel is minimal and does not change the car trajectory

[kaasman]

'I don't wanna see any left lane huggers (tm)'

3 minutes in and 2 overtakings on the right side, which is the wrong side 😂. Naughty Björn 😎

[swecreations]

Will be interesting to see how efficient it will be in summer and on summer tires

[misaelramos]

I love these videos. I'm about to pickup an I6 going into winter here and now I know to be extra sure to get the destination properly set to I can have a decent rate.

[RRoberto]

The consumption was higher, than I expected. With this shape it could be better.

[citedcanvas]

I dnt even own an ev but everytime i watch these roadtrips i want to go on one

[PhotoJohn]

Yeah they need a preheat button. Hopefully with another update. It took them a year just to get into 22 year cars.

[Zedus-rlhp]

Since the average temperature in Europe is between 7-11°C, this mild "winter range" is definitely relevant.
Hyundai needs proper pre-heating, otherwise the theoretically high charging capacity isn't of much use.

[codex]

Lol, start of video Bjørn says "I dont want to see any leftlane huggers!" Cuts to 2 in the left lane alone haha :p funny

[MrBucko]

Trick the car by inputting an earlier charger so it starts pre heat sooner. You will then have to re-select the charger you really want when your nearby the original input charger. I can do this by setting a close by unit while still parked in my driveway. Seems to take ages to preheat to optimal temperatures.

You still have to be aware of the cut off of preheat at 17%-20% SoC.

[Suar]

It should take into account the distance to the charger to understand if it allows the pre-heating to carry on or not like you mentioned. Tesla also needs a pre-heating button since it doesn't recognize others chargers on the route planner

[fabianfeilcke]

The battery conditioning is a mess for sure. Why would you actively cool the battery if the outside is 10° and the car not going to charge anytime soon? It could just have let the battery cool down passively, then it probably would not have to heat it up again for the next stop.
with better thermal management it probably could be below 200Wh/km and charge faster as well