Rappel systems with built in rescue solutions

Here is a free course featuring Brent Roth about different ways to set up rappels through a canyon. This considers ease of rigging, abrasion, ease of rescue and how efficient it is to move people through the canyon.

Episodes 1-5 show the systems,
Episode 6 shows how it can all be done with 1 device,
Episodes 7-8 are friction tests,
Episodes 9-10 are break tests of the hardware and the knot blocks.
All the episodes are in the textbook

Single rope STATIC system
01:45 - Carabiner Block - Clove hitch
05:39 - Carabiner Block - Stone Knot
07:01 - Carabiner Block - Figure 8
09:04 - Fiddle Stick
13:53 - Benefits of this system
16:50 - Single rope RELEASABLE system
20:05 - EMO - Eight Mule Overhand
23:03 - Importance of unlinked anchors
24:46 - MMO - Munter Mule Overhand
28:18 - Problem Solving

[DreIsGoneFission]

Don’t mean to keep commenting (although maybe it helps the algorithm more?) but I just finished the video. I gotta say, I appreciate your security in allowing us to see you NOT being the expert. The times you were asking questions or slightly confused, it helped me a ton. Way to let your guest and an awesome expert shine!

[michaelboisvert]

I watched this video the day it came out. Today I was able to ‘self rescue’ on a double pitch where the first repeller took my ATC and theirs by accident. I used the knot block at 7:00 to secure a single static line and used a munter hitch + VTprussik to descend. This video saved me time and stopped me from wasting resources. I wasn’t afraid of this technique because y’all simulated the rappel line so clearly. Thank you. You da man for putting the valuable content out there. The next gear purchase is from extreme gear.

[burbguy]

Again thank you for expanding in to these canyoning “how to” videos. And thank you for carrying canyoning gear in your store!

[johnstoddart]

Got to say that's a really nice climbing wall, doesn't look out of place in a house from the looks of the wide shots

[MichaelWilliams-xscf]

I worked with the Scouts USA as a climbing instructor for a while.
We always rigged Muntner mule overhand (forgive my spelling) releasable repels. We'd put a closed but not screwed locking carabiner around the bite of overhand and the down side of the rope.
I never had to use it myself, but we practiced like the devil and usually ended up popping and training on one about every trip.

With the same group we did some stuff with the US Army Rangers. We learned their rope bridge technique.
The far side uses a tensionless anchor, and the near side used essentially a Z drag and finished off with a Muntner Mule overhand.

Incredible content, I learn something new every time I watch your channel, it's one of the single best resources I've seen.

Peace and love friends ✌🏻

[shurdi]

5:50

I've always heard that called a marlin spike hitch. First class amateur has an amazing video on the topic called "The ONLY knot you need to know."
Great knot channel in general

[climbing]

I have seriously been waiting to watch this all day. Not disappointed

[BudgetAdventure]

@10:15, the concern can be addressed by stick design (4 holes vs 2 ovals), or by using what you have currently: In either case, clip a carabiner through the holes on each side of the stick and through the strands of rope going around your anchor. All but the last person down are protected from the stick coming out due to it pushing up against something, or any other reason. Having said that, you obviously want to rig it in such a way where it's not contacting anything. One of the reasons the holes are larger ovals in that design is so that there is room for both the pull cord and the safety carabiners.

[vinceburris]

Fantastic series. Thank you for bringing it to us.

[thejacobean]

I spent weeks last year studying a lot of this stuff. I wish this video would have been around back then. Such quality work! Great job, guys.

[timonix]

It's pretty cool that this video exist. I don't think I will ever use the information but if I were to I would probably need hours of practice before trying it with my life on the line.

[randymanuel]

I'm enjoying these series, learning a lot, and laughing frequently. Thank you!

[tomktl]

I'm beginning to watch this video.

[xxwookey]

Good info. I've been canyonning (occaisionally - I'm a caver really) for 30 years and still learned some stuff. We call a 'Munter hitch' an 'Italian hitch' and I have no idea what a mule hitch is called here.

[pablocardenasibanez]

Great! Love to watch your canyoning videos, looking forward to more of this 👌

[kylebessoni]

If you're going to use a clove hitch on a carabiner. Try making a triple clove. That way if one loop slides off the spine of the carabiner you still have a legit clove on the spine.

[PeregrineBF]

The second knot used (the one you'd use with a fiddlestick) is essentially a marlinespike hitch, but with a carabiner instead of a marlinespike.

[benjaminbordson]

Nice! Do you have specs on the retrieval line? Straight up amsteel or some blended cord?

[codyallison]

've been playing around (at home) combining a fiddlestick/smooth operator with a contingency aspect for rescue....basically I don't want to contribute to the deep grooves cut in UT sandstone but I want to have rescue capabilities....it has resulted in the "rescue" requiring removal of the fiddlestick while weighted. I can pull it out with a 200lb victim free-hanging, but like you've said, it's not easy lol. Once removed, the victim's weight is transferred to a totem/pivot for lowering. It'd be interesting to quantify the force it would take to remove a weighted fiddlestick.

Wondering what the canyoning community would think of it, or if this is just impractical. Like any other advanced anchor, incorrect rigging would be catastrophic.

[tubecat]

Awesome video. Just putting it out there. Back in ye olden times we use to block the munter with 2 half hitches instead of the mule over hand. Personally I think its neater, just as easy to tie. Just as easy to release and still pops with minimal drop. So other than not having a catchy 3 Letter Acronym what's the main down side of a Munter double half hitch compared to the Munter Mule Overhand?