Western chip sanctions guaranteed to fail as thousands of top Chinese scientists return home

China is now a scientific superpower, and now leads the United States and the European Union in several key measures of scholarship and research output.

Much of China's top research and scientific talent are also headed back to China, and bringing with them deep, specialized industry knowledge in dozens of fields.

Western export curbs on critical technologies and tools for semiconductor manufacturing have ironically chased much top Chinese talent away from Silicon Valley and Europe, back to China. By closing off customers for their products, they concluded they are better off, instead, returning to China and doing business here, with Chinese partners and Chinese customers.

Resources and links:

Reuters, US wants to contain China's chip industry. This startup shows it won't be easy

FT, How Huawei surprised the US with a cutting-edge chip made in China

Reuters, Focus: China's AI industry barely slowed by US chip export rules

The Economist, China has become a scientific superpower

Zerohedge, China Outpaces America In Science

Can this startup help China break through US chip restrictions?

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[_mark]

You just got to laugh at the stupidity of American politicians.

[herta]

Free speech, free market, human rights, democracy. People all over the world are now sceptic and making fun of these words thanks to the U.S.

[jilidkuminding]

Salute to Chinese talent and brain power. We are proud of you. China Powering ASIA and the WORLD 🌍 💪💪💪👏👏👏

[Faye_Liu]

To be brutally honest, China is not lacking of talents at home, their educational system produces 5 million STEM graduates a year, the competition is fierce. And the overseas returnees are no longer favoured like before, they still have to compete with graduates at home. The Chinese tech companies select the best of the best.

[jstasiak]

As Spengler (David P. Goldman) pointed out in Asia Times many years ago, trying to maintain dominance over China via blocking maneuvers (e.g. cutting off access to knowledge/intellectual property, blocking access to microchips and natural resources, sanctions, etc.) is a losing strategy that will never be successful. As anyone who has completed against the Chinese in academia or business knows very well, the Chinese as a people are extremely intelligent, resourceful, hard working and entrepreneurial. They will figure out a way around any impediment that the US may place in their way.

Intel and AMD can no longer make cutting edge microchips anymore (TSMC of Taiwan has to make the most advanced microchips for them.); Boeing can no longer produce top quality aircraft anymore (the MBAs with spreadsheets have wrecked the place) and the US has to rely upon China for pharmaceutical manufacturing.

This ridiculous situation is unsustainable. The United States is slowly imploding in real time before our eyes. A war over Taiwan would be the Coup de grace.

[wsurfer]

Before China had no advanced labs and high tech companies. So if you have an advanced degree you have to stay in the west to apply your knowledge. Not anymore.

[ElmerTan-utqn]

Sharings without taking side. Honest and brutal at times. I respect your sincerity. ❤

[ltribley]

History moves forward. What was once the American dream is now the Chinese dream.

[toshitsuneomizu]

Remember when back then Japan was rising super quick as a economical and technological powerhouse and the US perceived it as a threat to its dominance? When Japan was (and still is) a close strategical partner, people in the US started boycotting Japanese cars and in some cases going as far as committing hate crimes (see Vincent Chin) and then officially the US started a trade war against Japan, an ally power, to curb its growth. The US is all about free trade until when it doesn't suit America, that's when boycott and tariffs sweep in.

[HappyPandaBear]

“Uncle Sanctions” is encouraging Motherland, China to remain disciplined, diligent, decisive & determined to prepared for the u$a’s sanctions & prepared for more dangerous storms coming ahead from the u$a.

BLESS MOTHERLAND, CHINA 10, 000 YEARS & TEAM MOTHERLAND, CHINA ALL THE WAY AND BEYOND FOREVER!👍🙏🇨🇳🙂🐲🐼☯️☮️🌏‼️

[bluemoon]

The comparison between the US and the Chinese economic and technology advancement is like comparing the American railroads and the Chinese high speed trains ….

[coliv]

companies will go where the market is! If the US gov doesn't allow people to sell to China, founders will move to China and create business there. Fatal mistake for Silicon Valley.

[TrimeshSZ]

The fundamental issue is that the people making US policy are stuck in a cold war mindset and unwilling - or possibly incapable - of realizing that the world has changed. They also seem to have this assumption that the world is strictly zero sum and that hence for the US to do well everyone else has to suffer.

[ComedyTalent]

Any immigrants, including some native born Americans, whom have been raised, educated (especially the highly educated) with excellent analytical skills realized that Western Democracy is a pseudo democracy; democracy only please the mass to make themselves feel better of outcome, as we all know, none of the choice can rarely help improves the lives of regular people; often, they made it worse for regular citizens. The real benefit of these pseudo democracy always help improve the lives of the ultra rich and politicians.

It is the realization of the pseudo democracy that people are looking for better alternatives elsewhere!

[kbbdttf]

Today's podcast is excellent and brutally honest.. stupid America.

[BM-]

America, not the greatest country in the world. Wake up Americans!!

[keirenle]

What people don't understand is that the rich, the resourceful, the talented and the able they won't be tied down to any governments. They come to you when they feel they are welcomed and valued

[polycadence]

Over 10, 000 semiconductor engineers left TSMC to join SMIC in recent years.
USA is now FUBAR.

[albertorodas]

China is not a country is a civilization that has existed for thousands of year. And still exist

[DragonYang]

I am very familiar with OPC. For many years, it involves lots of mathematics. But, recently, machine learning (ML) makes it far easier. When ML is used, all previous inventions around OPC are not as important. With the strength in AI, China poises a stronger position to develop more advanced OPC for its semiconductor lithography process without needing reinventing the wheels.