Which Car Brands Make the BEST and WORST Vehicles in 2022?

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Today, Ray and Zach discuss whether car dealerships will continue with the bait and switch approach to selling cars, or begin providing realistic prices online. Will they finally change, or will car dealerships inevitably run themselves in to the ground?
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My favorite saying with Land Rover is "If you want to go anywhere in the world, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back home, take a Toyota."

tmwei
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Bmw and Audi ahead of Toyota? This list has lost credibility

paultohh
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Most Mazdas are still made in Japan, you can’t beat the quality and excellence of the products they produce.

MrSaxbb
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Oh man. Some people gonna be hurting after this. Including me. Most reliable vehicles in the world are Toyota and Lexus. But Mazda beat them for 2021 in initial quality. But for long term Toyota and Lexus.

americandude
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Had a 98 jeep brand new, broke in the weirdest ways for an "offroad" vehicle that never went offroad. Now my 2008 FJ Cruiser, never had any issues, other than not being able to take the top or doors off:)

pharbath
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I'm shocked that Subaru has 13 cars per dealership. I thought the number was much lower. Last time I visited the dealership near me, there were two cars on the lot. Nobody has handled the pandemic chip shortage worse than Subaru.

joecommenter
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Mazda's ranking as #1 or this year's #2 is much deserved. They've had arguably the best overall reliability for a while. Recently, the Mazda CX-5 was the *only* SUV in its class to get a 'Good' rating on the new IIHS side collision test. Given Mazda is among the smallest major automakers in the world (afaik not even top 15 by volume last I checked), that's an incredibly impressive feat. European cars which cost way more to develop and buy didn't score 'Good' on the side collision test. Pretty much all Mazda's have excellent safety ratings. And if you ask people who own Mazdas what they think about the driving experience, you'll probably hear very good things.

Darien
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Earlier this year I got a Mazda CX-30 carbon edition and I love that car. The interior looks luxurious too.

Josev-TV
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The top 5 and 10 must not be long term reviews. If one thinks about it people are almost always very happy with their new vehicles for the first year.

ethimself
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I am a fleet manager for a large pharmaceutical company.
At any given time we have approximately 1, 200 vehicles in our fleet.
We have everything from top of the line Mercedes and BMWs down to Chevy Sparks and Nissan Versas.
Toyota and Honda used to be the most reliable and durable in our fleet but over the past 10 years both have shown significant declines, especially Honda, and now some of the domestic and European brands are comparable if not superior.
All our vehicles are purchased new and kept for 5 years or 150, 000 miles whichever comes first.
They are maintained per manufacturer's recommendations at their respective dealerships.
Asian brands are not as bulletproof as urban legend suggests and European and American brands are not as bad as people think they are.

williamegler
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You want to know the best way to see the reliability of a car or brand? Go on the forums for that car or brand. Some forums are more organized than others but there is always either a section or search function to see the common problems for every brand or specific model & generation. You will always see the one off or infrequent problems so focus on the large threads about single problems & also the number of problems found.

Some examples I can bring up (because I own these cars) are the transmission noise issues on V6 Toyota Rav4's, Infiniti G37 transmission shift issues (7AT), crack dashboard defect in Acura TL's (3rd Gen), etc. Consumer reports won't report these issues / complaints but forums do.

meme-ycks
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We’re on our second Subaru here in Vermont. Can’t imagine driving anything else in the snow and ice and mountains. With snow tires, I’ve never felt safer in a vehicle.

bonannos
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I take any list from CR with a grain of salt, when it comes to vehicles I always cross check with other lists out there, with car mechanics that have been in the business for over 20-40 years I know personally. The long term reliability lists CR uses are from feedback their subscribers give and not all their subscribers are what you would refer to as "car people", in other words, a minor problem might be seen as a major defect to those who don't know the difference between the two.

BusterKitten
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did i miss Kia and Hyundai?? Passed down 2008 Elantra to son who passed the car off to his sister. 200+K and the car still looks and runs great.

donsmith
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Hey ray, you’re rockin the beard. Love the channel!

dajfederal
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This site may be a keeper - rock on guys

ethimself
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I’ve owned two Jeep Wranglers, and two Grand Cherokees, never had any reliability problems. The current Grand Cherokee summit has every gadget possible, and five years in, zero issues. I do follow all service recommendations, and have it serviced at the dealer. I don’t understand the low ranking at all.

russellbeck
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I haven’t looked at the list but it would be interesting to see if they have a running cost average based over a 10 or even 15 year period. That’s where a lot of value would come from in my opinion. That would provide for how much it would cost to keep the car in running shape over the long term.
At least on a historical basis.

jjminor
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Back about 1976 or so, my Uncle lived in Montana and we lived in Central PA, not far from Philly where my Mom's family was from. Every three or four months, he'd drive to Rutger's University for a checkup from his cardiologist. One time he shows up in a Subaru Brat and my mom sort of laughed at it and asked, "Why? Why...that?" My uncle replied, "How many times have you seen a Subaru broken down along the side of the road?" We hadn't. Back then, I remember that you couldn't go more than ten miles or so on Rt. 30 or any other limited access highway without seeing one of Detroit's finest broken down on the side of the road.

We bought our first in 1985 and since then have had a total of 5.

kfeltenberger
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I LOVE the Subaru, on my second one a 2008 outback with over 300K miles and purring like a kitten. Still a pleasure to drive.

siaf