Is the Universe fine tuned for life? Sir Roger Penrose vs William Lane Craig

Sir Roger Penrose debates whether the universe is fine-tuned for life with William Lane Craig.

This is an extract of celebrated mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose talking to renowned Christian philosopher William Lane Craig about God and the Universe.

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[HM-vjll]

Can the first 5 seconds be fine tuned?

[φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικός]

“I don’t like it, but it’s possible”-Sir Roger Penrose.

Mere mortals: “Whoa.”

[sammy_trix]

Congratulations to Mr. Penrose for winning the 2020 Nobel Prize!

[He.knows.nothing]

Fine tuning is for those of us who arnt capable of not having an explanation for our own existence. "I don't know" is the most intellectually honest interpretation of what facts we have to observe, opposed to the arrogance of presupposing a supernatural explanation of the missing pieces to our existential puzzle.

[minetime]

I love how this is a discussion and not an argument.

[dane]

"As long as there's a 1 in a 1, 000, 000 chance that Christianity is true, it's worth believing" - Dr. William Lane Craig(low bar Bill)

[mehmetirmak]

This video shows the Dunning-Kruger Effect perfectly. One side, there is a physics and mathematics professor(who is a master of his fields) tells you that "we have still limited information about universe" and the other side, a philosopher tells him that he's denying the truth. Its just funny to watch it.

[kalijasin]

The look on Penrose's face @0:45 LOL

[dlewisa]

The framing of the question is loaded. "Is the universe fine-tuned for life?" It assumes that life is the purpose of fine-tuning! How do you justify going any further than "the universe is fine-tuned for matter/mass?" Anything beyond that is cherry picked to make an argument for your favorite pet theory. "The universe is fine-tuned for smart phones. The universe is fine-tuned for bee hives. The universe is fine-tuned for volcanoes." Come on. This apologetic argument is BS.

[bemusedatheist]

Even if the universe was slightly altered, whose to say another type of life could not flourish in those circumstances?

[DonswatchingtheTube]

3:47 A conscious being imagining that there could be conscious beings. Then finding it hard to.

[fellowshipofthemystery]

Hugh Ross does a great job explaining this "fine tuning" phenomenon.

[CupOfSweetTea]

Not really a conversation. One thinks he knows, the other admits he doesn't know. One thing is clear, if Roger Penrose doesn't know, nobody does.

[Desertphile]

My car's license plate reads 187KNV: the odds of that happening by chance is astronomically unlikely, as there are ten Arabic numerals (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) and 26 Greek/Roman letters. My license plate therefore shows that the Motor Vehicle Department is God.

[misterggg]

"I don't know", "I don't know", "I don't know", what I do know is God doesn't exist. Then he goes home and polishes his Nobel Prize.

[minetime]

How’s this for a teleological argument:
1. It is improbable that things without a mind behind them to create oder
2. The universe has oder
3. It is improbable that the universe does not have a mind behind it

Or maybe:

1. It is improbable for random accidents to create oder
2. The universe has oder
3. It is improbable the universe is a random accident

[anaccount]

Saying the universe is fine tuned for life is like looking at the waste by products created by a factory and saying the factory must have been disigned to creat these waste products. If this universe was created for some reason by an intelligent mind, not necessarily a God, then all the evidence suggests life is an unintended by product of whatever reason the universe was created for.

[samo]

What fascinates me often is that those who have greater depth of knowledge tends to prefer not to jump to a convenient or preferred conclusion. Apologists however would squeeze a square peg into a round hole when given half the chance.

[nicknolder]

Even if it’s highly improbable the universe permits life, theist claim god exist outside of spacetime, so maybe our conscious experience existing outside of spacetime could have also happened but it just didn’t, and we happened to land in this particular version of sentience

[bryanasands]

This is such a fascinating discussion, one that will go down in one of those polemic discussions.