The Fine Tuning Argument (Arguments For God Episode #6)

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Even Christopher Hitchens was periodically stumped by this favourite among apologists. I've never quite understood the appeal.

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[gaslightingsquidward]

It also contradicts omnipotence
Why would an omnipotent god need to fine tune the constants for life?Could he just not change the conditions suitable for life?Or is he forced to fine tune due to external restrictions?

[spaceymcnutz]

I think you forgot to talk about the anthropic principle
Only a universe fit to make observers will be observed

[ComradeDragon]

Lets assume the universe is finely tuned

How do we know a god did it?And how do we know a SPECIFIC god did it?

[ChristianIce]

Isn't it incredible that the water in a glass has the same exact shape as the glass itself?
Coincidence? No, it must be gawd!

[bigfootalex]

This argument seems so flawed to me. It basically says that the universe is the way that it is and if it wasn't the way that it is, it wouldn't be the universe. Like no shit.

[mcc]

Yes, it's pretty odd to say the universe has been fine-tuned for life the majority has none. Fine-tuned for black holes and empty space maybe.

[SpaveFrostKing]

A deck of cards got mixed up, and when I looked at the order the cards were in I was shocked! There was only a 1 in 10^67 chance it could have been in that particular order. Clearly with odds that unlikely, it must have been due to God himself arranging the cards.

[erlenddalen]

I've never been impressed by the fine tuning argument. It implies the point of the univerese is us, instead of us being a result of the way the universe is.

[chrisramseur]

By far, one of the best channels on YouTube.

[wheresmyrooptoff]

Another name for the fine-tuning argument is "Ray Comfort's banana argument"

[cibermae]

Following the logic of the fine-tuned argument: Tapeworms require several conditions to live. Human bodies provide such conditions. The probability of human bodies to be the perfect host for tapeworms is almost cero. Therefore, humans were designed for tapeworms.

[PandaCroft]

I would like to see the watchmaker arguement refuted

[wedeldylan]

I just made my grandma reevaluate her entire life by asking her what kind of omniscient god would knowingly create people destined for Hell. I feel like a dick

[danjajeff]

Most concise and well read and studied kid. Good job. Keep up the good work. I'm a trucker here across the pond ikn the US and love your material. Interesting and keeps me thinking and questioning.

[morwennmusachia]

Well I should actually be studying but athIEST AL IS BACK SO I HAVE NO CHOICE

[cjermevpg]

Here's the fine tuning argument in a nutshell: If the universe was different, it would not be like it is.

[gsogymrat]

This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' ― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

[ramiebashir]

You never cease to impress me, truly amazing. Another thing, you said in this video "the problem is Einsteins don't come around all too often"... well to that I say that you might be one of those in the future in your respective field of work. Thanks for the consistent quality content.

[Robfergy]

"Before we get our trousers off..."
I'm going to use this as often as I can.

[jesserochon]

Alex, I appreciate your articulate delivery, your clear passion for science and the truth and the diligence to make educational youtube videos for the masses w/ no thought of tangible reward. And you're only 18. That's remarkable and I give you high marks, excellent sir.

That. Being. Said…. :)

I simply have to respond because although I very often agree with much of your content, unless I misunderstood your /contention/ to the argument from fine tuning here, you've fallen prey to a strangely popular but highly flawed one. (I'd greatly appreciate you correcting me if I'm wrong)

You claim to have introduced in your video here the /false/ dichotomy of A: The universe came about by absurd chance or B: God, and then allegedly demonstrate this by introducing a third option: Some as of yet undiscovered but merely plausible 'meta' law(s) or constraints by which these universal constants could not have possibly been anything other than the values they precisely are.

This point is valid but in NO WAY serves to undermine or challenge the argument from fine tuning. It merely shifts the goal posts back a leap -- As you rightly put it, the constants may very well be constrained to the precise values they are by some, as yet unknown, higher meta force or forces. But then we're back to square one… These meta forces must have been finely tuned to a precise value in order to perfectly constrain the constants in our local universe to precisely the values they are.

You can keep shifting the goal posts back further and further but you get no closer to answering the questions the argument from fine tuning raises: Who or what set the ultimate preconditions for reality to exist? God/Intelligencia or not God/not Intelligencia…. If not God, then indeed by all accounts it appears to be left to absurd chance, which for obvious reason I patently reject.