Zen 4 and Linux with the New AM5 Hardware

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[LevelLinux]

Hey friends, We have added the benchmarks to our description! Sorry for the delay!! ~ Editor Autumn

[BlueTJLP]

I absolutely appreciate your videos. You go into things that nobody else ever talks about. We are glad to have you.

[Vlad-]

You don't only cover a more advanced Linux niche that is disregarded by a lot of Youtube channels, but you also make it entretaining and informative. I thank you. (even if you talk a lot about hardware I can only dream off. I am glad to actually know what is going on around, wouldn't change it a bit).

[wcrb]

So glad you're doing Linux based coverage with Zen 4. Definitely time to build a new PC for me

[nikodll]

Thanks for talking about capping the power limit. I can image a lot of people are concerned about the extreme TDP. Would be super interesting to see the performance comparison with 65W Intel 13gen CPUs when they come out (with AMD is also capped at ~65W), since this is the product that explicitly doesn't exist in AMD's lineup. Also, I remember from one of your older videos about "unofficial" ECC support on AMD platform, that even if ECC memory is technically working with the MB, "real" error correction actually may not happen. Can we be confident ECC does fully work on these ZEN4 motherboards?

[JanghanHong]

10:00 "Thunderbolt has to be qualified by Intel."

Sitting here with an Asus ProArt AM4 motherboard with dual thunderbolt (in advertising and on the box), it tickles me to know that there exists an Intel employee who goes through all the checklist for AMD motherboards in the Intel labs.

[lloydc]

Thanks for your input, like many others took advantage of dropping prices on older items on the marketplace, but still interested in finding out what the newer products have to offer and compare!

[DeChache]

The biggest win as I see it for home server/build server use is the onboard graphics freeing up a PCI-e slot for other things. That said hoping to grab a cheap 5950X for now...

[logmover]

I really hope they come out with a board that splits that PCIe Gen 5 into more Gen 4/Gen 3 lanes. With threadripper completely dead at this point, this would be a fantastic alternative.

[TinkerersAnonymous]

I think the closest the a "Workstation" motherboard would be the ASUS X670E ProArt. 10GbE & 2.5GbE as well as "Thunderbolt" via USB4 and DisplayPort into the motherboard to feed back out over the USB4 header.

[wraith]

Great content, wonderful chat thanks very much :)

[markdavenportjr]

Been wondering about it Linux performance thanks! I'm gonna be upgrading to Zen 4 and using Pop OS when I get the hardware. :)

[gilbertrodriguez]

Wow! Thank you WendeL and the team at Level1

[СузаннаСергеевна]

What I'd love to have you test is if the Ryzen iGPU can be passed through to a virtual machine. I can only assume Intel intentionally blocks this functionality because despite all my efforts on 12th gen I haven't been able to get a VM to boot with the iGPU passed through to it. Being able to do a dual-GPU mITX system, even if the secondary GPU is so highly limited, would be an enormous selling point for me.
Of course best would be just being allowed SR-I/OV on non-datacentre graphics cards, but not even AMD would ever be so good to us.

[matevzz]

Noticing that you haven't talked about the upcoming V-Cache products in either video. Can you think of some server use-cases where the highly binned 7950x3D and it's monstrous L3 come in handy? I'm thinking the platform/prices might stable out by then, and the 3D stacking technology should be improved, possibly allowing higher clocks

[Walaryne]

Speaking of motherboards I'd love to see you review for Zen 4 on Linux: The ASUS ProArt X670E WiFi
I've had a wonderful time with mine and I'd love to hear your thoughts.

[kashgarinn]

Wow.. incredibly good info in this video. I’m interested in the new platform but not at ridiculous prices, both in regards to upfront cost and running cost.
Look forward to seeing the B type motherboard reviews, and the day you can recommend 128GB ram

[Serpentaxuk]

Thanks for this, looking to build a new machine for Xmas. This was super helpful.

[EliasHansenuf]

No 10Gbe on such a main board? I have a 1950 system and waited for m-atx main boards with integrated 10Gbe . Since the new NV graphics cards are that big, I will go for atx, but when not even the most luxury main boards have integrated 10 Gbe it's a mess. The reason for integrated 10Gbe is to be able to avoid big tower cases. The rad limitation with 2x 360mm is mostly 45mm. Mounting a 2nd PCIE card, even a little one can be a challenge.

[MrnnStr]

I am interested in AMD claims (reported by LTT) for Ryzen 7600X --- outperforming the 12900K in gaming. Since LTT is unlikely to cover gaming on Linux, will *L1L* compare _Linux gaming_ on both the 12900K and Ryzen 7600X? That is, all else being (relatively) equal[1]?

I am interested, also, in seeing how each does with Windows running in a PROXMOX (or headless, qemu KVM) VM. Ideally, this would include gaming on Windows --- even if only in synthetic tests.

[1] Current AMD Radeon discreet graphics, preferred; RX (6800|6900) XT.