‼️What’s the Truth?‼️ Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post-Trib, or Pre-Wrath Rapture? || #rapture

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Join Dr. Ron Rhodes as he explores the four main views on the rapture of the church in Christian eschatology—Pre-Tribulation, Mid-Tribulation, Post-Tribulation, and Pre-Wrath. In this insightful sermon, Dr. Rhodes explains why the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is the correct interpretation, offering biblical evidence and theological reasoning to support this view.

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People arguing over a book that was obviously written after the writer had a meal of some special mushrooms.

gener.
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This pastor can’t read they will be kept in prison till they pay every farthing since they didn’t reconcile with their brother

Telmoprl-lgpr
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Yes the rapture is pre trib, that is visions, resurrection we have clear scripture stating when the first resurrection is

Telmoprl-lgpr
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Nice to present the most popular views and the main points and let the listener decide.
Of course, the problem is that each group thinks they are 'Biblical'. The truth is each group has their own interpretation. So like a trial, let each side present their evidence and let the judge (or jury) decide which interpretation is closest to the truth. Here we have the presenter explaining each view. The possible problem is that the presenter may be biased
because he holds to one particular view.

Ron, ok let's be Biblical for a moment. I do not find one place in the Bible where a time period of 7 years is mentioned in context (within the same sentence or paragraph) with the word Tribulation. Yes, I searched all references to that word to confirm for myself.
There are places where a time period of 3 1/2 years is mentioned in context with the Tribulation.

So does that mean I fit in the box for mid trib, pre-wrath or post-trib? NO.
I think the seven year period should be called Daniel's 70th week. That is what the pre-trib group call it but then they say the entire 70th week is the Tribulation so they call it the Tribulation (of 7 years) instead of calling it Daniel's 70th week. Again, let's be Biblical. In Mark chapter 13 our Lord Jesus says the Tribulation begins at the time of the Abomination of desolation. That is not shown on your chart but is at the middle of Daniel's 70th week.
Our Lord does not divide Daniel's 70th week into two parts and call the first part the Tribulation and the second part the great Tribualation. That is an invention of man coming form 2nd Imaginations 0:00.

Bottom line - I favor a pre-70th week view - yes with the rapture probably coming before that begins. The first half of Daniel's 70th week I see as a relative time of peace. Jesus warned the Jews (living in peace in Judea) to flee for their lives when the Abomination of Desolation begins at the middle of the 70th week. There's your Biblical. I strongly believe there will be peace during the first 3 1/2 years and that the temple will be built during that time. Then probably at the dedication ceremony of the temple is when the Antichrist will enter the holy place and defile it - the abomination of desolation. That will be the signal to attack Israel and destroy them.

lw
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There are two periods for the elect in Rev. 12....the wilderness and the desert. The Jews wandered for roughly 40 years, and the Christian wilderness will be roughly the same measure of time. The desert period where the elect are nurtured and protected runs the same measure of time as the reign of the Antichrist, and thus will probably run concurrently together. A certain scholar said that, depending how you calculate Daniel, that there is a 15, 30, or 45 day period from the death of the Witnesses until the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Rapture equals ecstasy, a totally different meaning than the simple displacement in Rev. 12 to the desert.

gunsnrosaries
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How do you explain this scripture? Matthew 24:29-31 Immediately "After" The Tribulation in those days: ‘The sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Post Tribulation Harvest

Zechariah 14:1-7
Behold, a day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence. For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

"Then", Yahweh will go out to fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be "split in two" from east to west, forming a great valley, with half the mountain moving to the north and half to the south. You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah.

Then the LORD my God (Son of Man) will come, and all the holy ones with Him. On that day there will be "no light", no cold or frost. It will be a day known only to the LORD, without day or night; but when evening comes, there will be light.

Matthew 24:29-31

Immediately '"after"' the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the Heavens will be shaken.’

(The Return)
At that time the sign of the "Son of Man" will appear in heaven, and "all" the tribes of the "earth" (not only Israel) will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of Heaven, with power and great glory.

The First Resurrection


And, He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

1st Thessalonians 4:6, 7
For the Lord Himself will descend from Heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.

The Harvest

After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

Fifth Seal Tribulation

Revelation 6:9-17
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

(Immediately after)

When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slaved and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the Wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”

We will go through the Tribulation and then be Harvested (resurrected and raptured) before The Wrath of The Lamb.

New King James Version
He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. Revelation 13:10

Then a third angel followed them, shouting, “Anyone who worships the beast and his statue or who accepts his mark on the forehead or on the hand must drink the wine of God’s anger. It has been poured full strength into God’s cup of wrath. And they will be tormented with fire and burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no relief day or night, for they have worshiped the beast and his statue and have accepted the mark of his name.”

This means that God’s holy people must endure persecution patiently, obeying His commands and maintaining their faith in Jesus.

And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this down: Blessed are those who die in the Lord from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, they are blessed indeed, for they will rest from their hard work; for their good deeds follow them!” Revelation 14:9-13

To live is Christ. To die is gain.

1st Corinthians 15:50-58
Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come to pass: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”
“Where, O Death, is your victory?
Where, O Death, is your sting?”
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!
Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast and immovable. Always excel in the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

May God’s will be done in the name of His Only Begotten Son Jesus our Lord and Christ. Amen.

Yahweh.Is.elohe.of.elohim
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If you are able to read and interpret the Scriptures correctly, then you will see that there is no "Rapture"

aussierob
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A fifth option.... There is no rapture but the final judgement, and that means final reward. He comes to judge the earth, , , that is, his chosen sons will proclaim judgement upon all who do not serve God, , , including the church. As Paul said, , , "judgement must first begin with us". the unwise virgin types that give little regard for the marriage to come will not enter with those He chooses. They along with the lukewarm will be spewn out per Rev 3.
He is not messing around. False teachers and pastors will be found guilty and cast out, , , perhaps into the lake of fire where the false prophets will go. /the trumpets will blow and judgement will come on the whole earth, ending with the 7th trumpet, , , "the last trumpet" when the few left, ,, the perfected, , , will be caught up to be glorified and then return to destroy the wicked. The amillinial position is the truth. Jesus set up his kingdom when he came. He would still be alive today had the jews not murdered him, , , The antichrist jews. The tribulation he referred to came upon that generation he was addressing in 70 AD. I wrote 2 books on this subject if anyone is listening

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I've always thought God's wrath will begin at the 3.5-year midpoint in the 7-year tribulation. Is the late timing of the pre-wrath rapture on your chart connected to the "woe" judgnents? I believe in the pre-trib rapture, by the way.

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Know the fig tree parable. It is not about Isreal reborn in 1948. A generation is not 76 years! When you see sacrifices in Isreal stopped at the abomination of desolation, Jesus returns soon after.

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Pre-trib teachers seem to ignore Rev 20:4-6. "This is the first resurrection. The rest of the dead do not come to life until after the 1, 000 years are complete." There is only one resurrection before the 1, 000 years! All the scriptures used by Pre-trib teachers are applicable to a post-trib rapture. Teach the truth. Teach: The sacrifices will start and end before Jesus returns. We rise in the first and only resurrection before the 1, 000 years with the two witnesses on the day Jesus returns!

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I think Rev 24:6 says clear enough that we must go through a period of tribulation BEFORE Christs return. Throughout this will be the hardest of times and persecution for Christians. God may test our faith one final time. To believe otherwise would be foolish. More than ever, I believe, we will be needing God’s armor. Preparation for those hard times would be wise. Sweetest of rewards at the sound of the trumpet.

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All views are biblical because all views are based on the Bible. Each interpretation uses the Bible to support their views.

GaylordGoertzen-pfuy
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Scripture is clear. The Church restrains the anti-Christ;prevents him from being revealed until The Rapture happens. Which is before the man of sin is revealed. To say otherwise is bearing false witness.

Scripture clearly says in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2:2-6 "for that day shall not come....and that man of sin be revealed.... and now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time"

The man of sin is active along with the false prophet for years, not days. For, the start of the tribulation commences when they sign the 7 year peace covenant which the anti-Christ is involved in and physically there. The anti-christ is revealed at that time, but the church, which restrains him, is gone before that..

The first verse of 2nd Thessalonians establishes that Paul is writing to The Church and the second chapter Paul continues to establish who he is writing to.

Those still against this information need to reconcile what Revelation chapter 5 tells us as well. 24 Men talking about their own redemption by His blood, around the throne of God, with gold crowns as rewards on their heads and John never asks who they are. They appear to be members of the raptured church to me and if any member of The Church is bodily in heaven then all the Church are there for we all go up together to meet the Lord in the air. THEY ARE THERE before the tribulation seals are opened which is in harmony with 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2. Additionally, great Bible teachers have stated The Church will be raptured before Matthew 24:9 where Jesus/God tells us there will be killing of Jews in all nations. The Church did not exist until Acts chapter 2 so don't make the mistake that Jesus was talking about The Church in Matthew 24:9.

Don’t be deceived by reading Rev. 5:10 in the wrong Bible. The correct source text is. “And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”

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The Bible is the word of God. Jesus is God. So, what is recorded that Jesus said? That answer can be found in Matthew 24 29-31! It can't be any clearer than that!

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What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine?

Since the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20, how is the New Covenant Church age going to end seven years before the Second Coming of Christ? Why would anyone think God is going back to the Old Covenant system now made “obsolete” by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13? We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.

Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.

The Capitol "C" Church, as we use the word today, is not found in the entire Book of Revelation. Individual church bodies in ancient Asia Minor are found. In Revelation 12:11 we find those under the blood of the Lamb. A person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 of this passage proves at least part of the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan upon the people of God.

Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

"It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view."
(The quotation above is from the book "Will You Escape The Tribulation? RAPTURE [Under Attack]", by Tim LaHaye, copyright 1998, Page 197.) Tim LaHaye was co-author of the “Left Behind” books and movies which have convinced millions of modern Christians that the Church age ends seven years before the Second Coming of Christ. Recently, Pastor Matt Furse of Mountain View Baptist Church in Custer, S.D. has written a book titled “Which One Is Right?’, which reveals the recent history of the pretrib rapture doctrine, and the fact it does not agree with what is written in the King James Bible.

The gathering of the Church is described at the end of 1 Thess. Chapter 4, and the timing of the event is found in chapter 5. The word “But” in the first verse of chapter 5 connects the two chapters, and the words “we” and “sleep” in verse 10 of chapter 5 prove the two chapters are connected.

The Greek words for “wrath” and “tribulation” are not the same word, as proven by the verse below.

Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Watch the YouTube video “Pretribulation Paradox” by former pretrib believer skydiver626..

SpotterVideo
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It's Post tribulation, which is also Pre Wrath. There is no such thing as a 7 year tribulation.

antichrist_revealed
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21 days til the second coming of Christ judgment day harvest then earthquake woe #2

chrisgruse
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Luke=(Luke is written to the gentiles/Israel)=(Leah Bride)/first Fruits(old/winter wheat)-leaves before Seals/tribulations first gathering/partial rapture/seals workers) (go to third heaven)

Mark=great multitude rapture, main harvest, sleeping Church-(spring/new wheat) stay till the end of seals (first 7years=seals) (144k come from this group and stay to preach in trumpets)(Rachael bride) (go to paradise)

Mathew=(Mathew is written to Judah, Jews)=gleanings of the harvest, (grapes) Jews-remnant-stay till the end of all tribulations (escape on the wings of an eagle), (last 7 years= trumpets) ( inherit the earth)

LUKE talks to the bride. (The pray to be counted worthy group).
In LUKE 23 Jesus wore a glorious robe. (WHITE Radiant in strongs)
in MARK 15 he wore a PURPLE robe.
In MATHEW 27 a SCARLET robe.
In LUKE at the last supper, Jesus broke bread, served them and ate with them.
In MARK he came in and they were already eating. He didn't serve them, or eat with them. He berated them for
their lack of faith.
In LUKE on the cross, Jesus said, Father into your arms I commend my spirit.
BUT In MARK and MATHEW he says..my God why have you forsaken me. ( Left me behind).
In MARK John gets his head cut off like the trib Saint will.
Jesus gets a beating, the crown of thorns put on his head n a spear in his side, in MARK and MATHEW but
NOT in LUKE.
LUKE speaks to the bride, MARK to the Luke warm church n trib Saints, n MATHEW to Jews, (Judah). Luke
says the first will be last and the last will be first. That's because the first in the bible is Mathew, Mark then
Luke. But the rapture as the last being first..it will go. Luke, Mark, then Mathew


God has always had 3 harvests throughout the bible. There is also 3 raptures. Pre/Mid/Post are all true. The first
Rapture of the bride (Luke's group) is in Rev 4. And a door was open in heaven, ( paraphrasing) and I herd God's
voice as the sound of a trumpet. We go up in the beginning of chapter 4, and chapter 5 has the bride standing
before the throne in white robes wearing crowns. The 24 elders. Each elder represents a group of people from all
tongues and nations. The 10k ×10k n thousands and thousands. Mathew chapter 4 and 5. Isiah 66:7 2nd
Corinthians chapter 12:2.


Second Rapture. Second rapture happens in Rev chapter 6-7. The souls show up under the alter in Rev 6:9 The
ones who gave there life for the lord by not taking the mark. Rev 6:11 White robes are given to them. Rev 6:12-14
Heavens ( sky) is rolled up like a scroll... Rev 7:4 The 144000 are sealed. Rev:7:9 The Great multitude show up in
white robes holding palm branches. ( Marks group) Rev 7:13-14 The Angel says this group was taken out of great
tribulation. They had to wash there robes. 2nd Corinthians 12:3-4 Taken up to paradise.


Third Rapture. Mathew When I come to you the 3rd time. 2nd Corinthians 12:14 . This happens on
Resurrection day. Rev 20:1-6 verse 5: This is the first resurrection. It happens at the last trump. 7th trumpet. 1st
thessolonians 4:14-18 and 5:1-4 . Verse 2 Day of the lord. 1st Corinthians 15:51-58 (in the twinkling of a eye...)
And you see it in Mathew 24:27 ( For as lightning flashes from one end of the earth to the other) Mathew 24:29-
31 24:40-41. There's another one in there (as on eagles wings) In Rev 12:14 But that's not a rapture, it's more of a
sideways rescue, taken to a safe place. All 3 are in 2nd Corinthians chapter 12: 1, 2, 3, 4 ...First 2 raptures and the
third is : when I come to you the third time in verse 14


Most Christians think they are Judah as they only read Mathew.
The lords prayer in Luke is for us. Not the Lords prayer in Mathew.
They are not the same, The difference is not a mistake. The mistake is not noticing the difference .

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