Warlocks Power Source

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more about the source of warlocks power in dungeons and dragons?

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“A deity can send clerics to burn their house down and steal their flab” what a horrific fate

brudahbro
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TLDR: While breaking the contract doesn't necessarily mean you loose your powers, there's nothing stopping the one you betrayed from sending minions to.... _"reclaim"_ that power from you.

VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
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DnD players will say something makes no sense, you gently explain to them that their confusion is built on a false understanding of the situation, and they act like you just killed their dog. Classic.

TheMightyBattleSquid
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That's why when my warlocks break a pact, they can't gain more power and they get a hit squad sent after them until one works. Clerics on the other hand, they break the rules the magic valve shuts

Pokeboyska
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This is actually the only explanation I've ever seen for what makes a warlock different from a cleric.

elaw
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“I can’t make you unlearn how to make an omelet. Unless it’s by blunt force trauma”… interesting

BoredTAK
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“steal their flab” is even funnier out of context

nightmaregenet
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I used to misinterpret how that whole relationship dynamic worked as well. If I had to explain it and video game terms, wizard is the gamer that watched all the tutorials, looked up the guides and memorized all the different button combinations and metas, and warlock is the gamer who's older sibling taught them the cheat codes and exploits. It's easier for them to get into it but they never really master it to the extent that a wizard does.

impartialthrone
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I never thought this was such a big debate because its on DnD beyond as well. I would check the players handbook but I don’t have one on me. But I thought it was always clear cut.

This is from DnD Beyond: “A warlock might lead a cult dedicated to a demon prince, an archdevil, or an utterly alien entity—beings not typically served by clerics. More often, though, the arrangement is similar to that between a master and an apprentice. The warlock learns and grows in power, at the cost of occasional services performed on the patron’s behalf.”
The source text answers the questions! A warlock learns from a patron, so they can’t just unlearn.

squiddyproductions
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Warlock's patron doesn't take away the knowledge of how to cook an omelette, it takes away the frying pan, fire and eggs .

Просто_Иван
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A person can't unlearn something. Only way I can see a patron taking away anything to do with the power is if they take away how the warlock casts spells, such as an item. But if the warlock has an alternative for it, they can still do that casting.

I also like that this explains one of the flavor parts of warlock I was missing. Namely, whether always cast things max level. They have the knowledge of how to cast the spell, but not the understanding of how the spell works. As such, they always cast it at its highest level.

Before people ask how that compares to wizards and sorcerers, wizards study all aspects of the spell to gain understanding of it, hence being able to alter its power. Sorcerers have an inate understanding of the spells, hence why metamagic let's them even modify them.

krvys
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Thank you, I don't know why this concept is so hard for people to accept. Even if you prefer the other way of flavoring warlocks (which is fine) you gotta understand that this is how it's written and it also has a lot of roleplaying potential.

legacyirene
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There’s no reason someone couldn’t run warlocks this way, but it’s silly that they’re correcting you with what is really just their personal interpretation.

Ellievsgod
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When the warlock of my party was brought back to life after being killed by a moose(14 lvl game, it was a really big moose) they found that though the knowledge of their magic remained, the power that was to cast it was lost due to the method of resurrection. Now they are on a quest to regain that power and it looks like they'll find the answer in blood magic. Overall it's been a really Fun side quest as our warlock delves into the dark secrets of magic

macyork
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They way magic works in dnd is that magic itself is a weave between all realms, you can access's said weave in many way's, divine intervention-(Paladin Cleric) natural source or blood line-(Driud, ranger, Sorcerer) or being taught/given the powers-(Wizard, Warlock) you might say "why whould a god teach you when you can just spit back in there face" That one's up to your DM, I can hire a guy to teach me how to use a gun and never pay him, still know how to use a firearm but now there's an angry guy with a gun looking for me

zee-webx
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that's why warlocks don't need to prepare spells every morning, clerics do.

SecureBirch
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That makes sense for things like spells. You would still know how to cast those spells.

However, if you have a contract to drive a truck for a company and they gave you the truck as a part of that contract, they can still repossess the truck if you break said contract, even if they can’t unteach you how to drive it.

Warlock abilities like invocations and even spell slots (particularly the ability to regenerate them on a short rest as that is something you have to regularly entreat your patron for) would logically be loseable in the event you break the pact. For example, how exactly are you going to manifest that hexblade when the Queen has cut you off from the Shadowfell?

HorizonStronghold
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Omelette teaching short coming soon? Love the vids btw

luisaguillon
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What about wyll From BG3 in the epilogue he loses his power and becomes a ranger

Local_commentor
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I can deal with them burning the house down. But stalling ?? Now they’ve gone too far!!

benjaminmcinnis