Walter Veith on the Trinity[2] - The Personality of God & the Divinity of Christ

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[vanettawarkentin]

I don't believe in the trinity. I do believe in God the Father and Jesus his son, but I also believe the holy spirit was sent to us to be a helper.

[peterwilliams]

Veith is that guy that gives you 99% truth and 1% error

[johnriggs]

2.) Our pioneers believed in the shut door and probation had closed in 1844 until EGW was corrected in vision.

[RT-thmz]

Early pioneers of the SDA church were very likely opposing the "Catholic" trinity which is defined very differently than the one currently mentioned by the SDA church today.




"And God said, Let us make man in our image, ..." Genesis 1: 26 KJV

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God" Philippians 2:5 KJV

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 KJV

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel(God with us). Isaiah 7:14 KJV

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, ..." 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV

"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, whom I am well pleased" Matthew 3: 17 KJV

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
John 14:26 KJV

"The Father and the Son each have a personality. Christ declared: “I and My Father are one.” Yet it was the Son of God who came to the world in human form. Laying aside His royal robe and kingly crown, He clothed His divinity with humanity, that humanity through His infinite sacrifice might become partakers of the divine nature and escape the corruption that is in the world through lust. " Ellen White, Letters to the Church vol. 9, 68.2

“sin could be resisted and overcome only
through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead,
who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness
of divine power” Ellen White, Desire of Ages p. 671 (from "Letter 8, 'My Brethren in America', Feb 6, 1896)

[johnriggs]

1.) Why are comments so limited, only thing I can think is you're scared to deal with those of us who actually know the truth.

[johnriggs]

3.) EGW and James both rejected the Sabbath until it was revealed to her in vision.

[ZeldaVandermerwe-cb]

The Funkel Wagner's dictionary defines humanism and this should make anyone with a conscious think especially those who work for human resources
The word Humanism it says "A religious movement, emphasizing faith in man instead of belief in the super natural, in the United States it has arisen from uniteriasm " (welcome to the United church and the United Nations)" it is spreading to the liberal religious groups. Humanism a name applied to the literary movement at the close of the middle ages towards the revival of the pagan learning of classical antiquity. The humanists divided into two divergent schools of which sought to be ingrafted on the classical learning of the tree of Christianity while the other endevour to revive the literature of the classical antiquity and pagan spirit of the ancient heathen cults. Humanitarianism affirm the humanity and holy deny the divinity of Christ, believe in the perfectability of man or profess the religion of humanity. In modern usage philanthropic people are called by the name".
That is pretty direct, so when we find organisations like the world health organization you will find that philanthropic people like Bill Gates would be part of that. And when you are on that broad and spacious road to the devil and distruction will bill you at the gate because it is a toll road.
All those that who seek the National treasure, but do you know what that natural treasure really is ? He is storing the concept of legal value and looking after it for all those who tax and control it under a legal state debtor surname of paganism for those who deny the divinity of Christ.

And that my friends is why these trinitarians change wordings in the bible, also inserting human, and human beings into versions of the bible. It was there aim, if there were a bible then we would only have one bible, an interpretation of truth, not versions pushing humanism and Person's which is from the Greek word Kanah which is one with a title especially a surname, and these trinitarian theorists come up with such convelesent ways to deny the true essence of the loving creator and his son Jesus Christ.

[vanettawarkentin]

I know that I have been shown several verses in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God.

[johnriggs]

5.) Walter Veith had probably forgotten more than you'll ever know.

[johnriggs]

4.) Our pioneers believed a lot of things we don't today because EGW was given correction and guidance on them.

[gelubalaban]

Pioneers were eating pork why don’t you stop eating for two...