Randy Skeete Sermon - DO ADVENTISTS BELIEVE IN TRINITY OR IT'S ONLY CATHOLICS ? ( Q&A SESSION )

Randy Skeete Sermon - DO ADVENTISTS BELIEVE IN TRINITY OR IT'S ONLY CATHOLICS TEACHING ? IS THE HOLY SPIRITA HUMAN BEING ?( Q&A SESSION )
Thanks for watching and following our channel, please subscribe and like our channels for more videos of randy skeete

randy skeete sermons ,
randy skeete sermons on marriage,
randy skeete sermons 2018,
randy skeete sermons on relationships ,
randy skeete sermons 2021 ,
randy skeete sermons gyc ,
randy skeete sermons on prayer ,
randy skeete sermons 2019 ,
randy skeete sermons august 2020 ,
sermons by randy skeete,
randy skeete latest,

#randyskeete
#streamfacts
#randyskeetesermons
#randyskeetesermons2021

Join this channel to get access to perks:

[celestelincoln]

The question one must ask when studying about the Holy Spirit is: is it speaking about the identity or the nature of the Holy Spirit? Pastor Randy Skeete, who I appreciate very much, understands scripture to mean the Holy Spirit is God- it’s his identity. However, I have searched high and low in the Bible for a scripture that actually says “God the Holy Spirit” and I still haven’t found one. The scriptures only say, “the spirit of God” which refers to its nature. God and Christ are Holy so either of their spirits are Holy.
Read these two statements and tell me if they mean the same thing: The Bible of Randy’s. Randy the Bible.
Now compare: The spirit of God. God the spirit.
How about: The spirit of Randy. Randy the spirit.
1 Chronicles 28:12 talks about “the house of God”. Could we interpret this to mean that God is a house too? “God the house”?
Consider this scripture talking about an experience that Simpson had. Judges 15:19 (KJV) But God clave an hollow place that [was] in the jaw, and there came water thereout; and when he had drunk, his spirit came again, and he revived: wherefore he called the name thereof Enhakkore, which [is] in Lehi unto this day.
Was the spirit that came again into Samson a being other than Samson? It sounds silly I know but that is just what the trinity doctrine tries to convince us of. I am born and raised a Seventh-day Adventist but have felt confused with the plain “thus saith the Lord” in the Bible regarding His spirit and how He is knocking at the door of my heart and wants to live in me, with the doctrine of the trinity that my church accepted in 1980. After learning last year that my church has a liaison, so to speak, that meets regularly with the pope at the Vatican (Dr. Ganoune Diop) I was blown away to say the least! He wrote and also spoke in a message that “we are united with the Catholic Church through the shared doctrine of the trinity.” He also said that those who deny the doctrine of the trinity are heretics. What!? This revelation drove me to study it out in the Scriptures and sister White’s writings. There is no biblical or SP support for the doctrine of the trinity. None. I also learned that it was mainly through Dr. Kellogg and later Leroy Froom that this doctrine crept into our church. Remember the war in heaven? Lucifer was jealous of Christ’s sonship and was trying to undermine Him and the Father. Remember what satan tempted Christ to doubt? The words that God spoke at His baptism. God said, “this is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased”… satan tempted, ” if thou be the Son of God”… the trinity doctrine teaches us to deny that Christ is the divine son of God and to accept and invite another spirit god to live in us. Who said, “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me”? (Revelation 3:20)
It is Christ’s very Spirit that is knocking and waiting to sup with us. Let Him come in not another.

[johnmarkochieng]

The Foundations of Our Faith.

In a letter addressed to Kellogg in 1903, Ellen White defended the truth very plainly: “Your ideas are so mystical that they are destructive to the real substance, and the minds of some are becoming confused in regard to the foundation of our faith. If you allow your mind to become thus diverted, you will give a wrong mold to the work of that has made us what we are—Seventh-day Adventists.” (Letter 52, 1903)

Now that we know what Kellogg believed, we need to understand why what Kellogg was teaching was endangering “the foundation of our faith” that makes us Seventh-day Adventists. What is it that was considered to be the foundation at that time? In other words, what was the church teaching about this topic that Kellogg was departing from, causing Ellen White to write, “You're endangering the foundation of the faith;” “you're departing from the faith”?

Let's see what the servant of the Lord had to say about the Spirit. Do you know that statement of hers that says, “third person of the Godhead, ” a phrase that people still use today? Does she explain to us who the third person of the Godhead is? Does she explain more about the Holy Spirit? Yes she does.

Here is one of her statements found in the Review and Herald in 1906: “It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing; the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.” [She quoting John 6:63]. Christ is not here referring to to his doctrine, but to His person, the divinity of His character.” (Review And Herald, April 5, 1906).

The Holy Spirit is a person. Sister White said, “It’s the third person of the Godhead.” but it is the person of whom? It's the person of Christ; it is Christ omnipresent. This is who the Holy Spirit is. Kellogg was teaching that the Holy Spirit is a third person different from the Father and the Son.

Identity of the Comforter
For even more evidence of correctness of the pioneers’ common understanding, read John 14:16-18: “ And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”

Ellen White commented about John 14, when Jesus was speaking about the Comforter that would come. “That Christ should manifest Himself to them and yet be invisible to the world, was a mystery to the disciples. They could not understand the words of Christ in their spiritual sense. They were thinking of an outward, visible manifestation. They could not take in the fact that they could have the presence of Christ with them, and yet be unseen by the world. They did not understand the meaning of a spiritual manifestation.” (Southern Watchman, September 3, 1898).

Here is a powerful statement: “While Jesus ministers in the sanctuary above, He is still by His Spirit the minister of the church on earth. He is withdrawn from the eye of sense, but His parting promise is fulfilled, ‘Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world’ (Matthew 28:20).” (Desire of Ages, page 166). This is made possible by His divine omnipresence.

We have more to examine, and although we have read a few quotations, repetition in different contexts deepens the impression. These repeated quotations should make even more sense now.

“Christ declared that after His ascension, He would send to His church, as His crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take His place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit, - the soul of His life, the efficacy of His church, the light and life of the world. With His Spirit, Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.” (Review and Herald, May 19, 1904).

Now that was a very clear definition and you do not want to miss it. The Comforter that Jesus promised to send is the Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit is the soul of His life. Question: is the soul of Jesus’ life a different person from Himself? No. It's His very own person, His very own personality. How can the soul of the life of Christ be a different individual from Christ?

Continuing: “The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, as the personal presence of Christ to the soul.” (HM November 1, 1893).

And here is another example of that fact. “The Lord knows all about His faithful servants who for His sake are lying in prison or who are banished to lonely islands. HE COMFORTS THEM WITH HIS OWN PRESENCE.” (Desire of Ages p 669).

Who is Your Comforter?
Let me ask you this personal question: “Who is your Comforter?” This is a question that each one of us needs to answer. After all, your Comforter is the one who helps you overcome sin by faith in Christ. If you believe the doctrine that Kellogg believed—the one called Trinity, which is actually tritheism, or a belief in three gods—you would believe the teaching that God the Son ascended to heaven to minister there as our high priest, and now a third god—God the Holy Spirit—takes over here on earth and is your Comforter. That false Comforter, replacing the true Comforter which is the presence of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is the role that Satan wants to fill. He wants to draw your worship away from the one true God to Himself. So... who is your Comforter? The true one, or the counterfeit one?

What does Ellen White say? “There is no Comforter like Christ, so tender and so true.” (Review and Herald October 26, 1897). And this: “The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be.” (Manuscript Releases, Volume 8, page 49).
What comfort would you receive from someone who was not “made flesh and dwelt among us, ” who was not “tempted in all points like as we are, ” who is therefore not “able to succour us” as we are tempted? That is not very comforting, is it? Shall we believe that Jesus came to earth, lived here for thirty-three-and-half years, experienced everything that we have to experience, and then left us and sent someone else without any of those qualifying experiences to help us? I don't think so.

It is so important that we know that it is the Spirit of Christ in His omnipresence that is in us, and not some other spirit. We are taught specifically, “And because ye are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” (Galatians 4:6).

First John 5:12 tells us how very important that biblical truth is: “He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” Eternal life is involved in this issue; it is a salvational matter. Any other spirit in us would that of an antichrist.

Listen carefully to my next question. What is the real reason that the church is so weak today? Could it be that the church has embraced a counterfeit third God that they have made their comforter? The Lord's messenger provides the answer to my question: “The reason why the churches are weak and sickly and ready to die, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear the trembling souls. HE HAS SOUGHT TO SHUT OUT JESUS FROM THEIR VIEW AS THE COMFORTER, as the one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, ‘This is the way, walk ye in it.’” (Review and Herald, August 26, 1890).

What has the devil tried to do to weaken the churches? He has tried to keep us from the knowledge that Jesus Himself, our precious Redeemer, dwells in believers through faith in Him. With His presence we have His life, His strength to overcome, His love reflected through us to others, all the “fruit of the Spirit.” What magnificent knowledge is that! But Satan has deceived us into accepting another comforter—a counterfeit one that can never sanctify nor save us. We have played right to his evil hand. This Comforter today goes by the name “God the Holy Spirit, ” a personality altogether different from Christ.

Paul's words in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 bear repeating: “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

Sad to say, that is the denominational state, at present. The watchmen have let into our denomination “another Jesus” and “another spirit, ” which means we are being taught “another gospel” which cannot save us. We who know “what saith the Lord” must be restorers of paths to dwell in. Isaiah 58:12.

[ASJH]

1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. The Father and the Son have the same mind, same thought. Jesus received him from his Father in heaven and as the Son of man at his baptism.The one and only God is the Father, there is no other like him and Jesus is his Son, the image of the Father.

[johnmarkochieng]

“Is the Holy Ghost a Person?”

Was there some specific theological point that Kellogg said would answer objections to his book? What was at least one of the reasons Ellen White warned that “the ministers of the gospel should not be united with him when he has his present sentiments”?

Let's read what Kellogg himself said. He wrote a letter to G I Butler, in which he stated, “As far as I can fathom, the difficulty which is found in the Living Temple, the whole thing may be simmered down to the question: is the Holy Ghost a person?” (Letter of J H Kellogg to G I Butler, October 28, 1903).

Kellogg defended his new Trinitarian understanding as he continued in his letter to Butler, “You say no. I had supposed the Bible said this for reason that the personal pronoun ‘he’ is used in speaking of the Holy Ghost. Sister White uses the pronoun ‘he’ and has said in so many words that the Holy Ghost is the third person of the Godhead. How the Holy Ghost can be the third person and not be a person at all is difficult for me to see.” (Ibid.)

So what was the alpha “difficulty” all about? According to Kellogg, it centered on this: “Is the Holy Ghost a person?” That question sounds ironically familiar today. Kellogg believed that the Holy Ghost was a third divine person, a third god whom he called “God the Holy Spirit.” And what argument did Kellogg use to try to support this doctrine? He referred to the Spirit of prophecy—to a specific statement of Ellen White's, in which she wrote that the Holy Spirit is the “third person of the Godhead.” (Desire of Ages, page 671).

Sister White's statement is true. However, problems arise when people add to her words or assume meanings that she never intended or stated, such as the following assumption. They say, “Sister White says that the Holy Spirit is a person of the Godhead. That means that the Holy Spirit is a person just like the Father and the Son are persons.” But Sister White did not say that the Holy Spirit is a person “just like” the Father and the Son.

The Holy Spirit cannot be logically thought to be “just like” Father and Son for several reasons: (1) God has the “Spirit of God;” Christ had the “Spirit of Christ.” Does the Holy Spirit have a Spirit? No. (2) The Holy Spirit is said to be “poured out, ” “shed abroad.” Such things are never said about the Father and the Son. (3) The Holy Spirit is sometimes referred to as “it”. Never is that pronoun used in reference to the Father or the Son. (4) The Father and Son have physical bodies in whose image we are made. The Holy Spirit assumes different forms: dove-like, tongues of fire, etc., but never the image in which we are made.

The wrongs that have settled in on God's church as the result of the influential Dr Kellogg's initial departure from the the faith have undoubtedly grieved the Father's Spirit. We need to heed God's prophet who gave us this counsel: “In His dealings with His people in the past the Lord shows the necessity of purifying the church from wrongs. One dinner may diffuse darkness that will exclude the light of God from the entire congregation. When the people realize that darkness is settling upon them, and they do not know the cause, they should seek God earnestly, in great humility and self-abasement, until the wrongs which grieve His Spirit are searched out and put away.” (Testimonies For The Church, Volume 3, page 265). Exposing the wrongs so they may be put away is the primary purpose of this discourse. We do not want to grieve our Father in heaven any longer.

It is critical—even salvational—for us to understand the issues in this doctrinal controversy, because the Bible says, “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be.” If we do not get this right, we will be stuck in the omega of deadly heresy. Not even God can extricate us from our choice of error if we stubbornly stick to it.

Kellogg professed that he was a Trinitarian. I frankly do not like using word descriptions that are not found in the Bible or the Spirit of prophecy. There are two extremes: Christ and Satan, truth and error. Everyone will be aligned with one camp or the other. If we are to use any terms at all, perhaps the better choice would be this: Will we each be a Restorer, or will we choose to be non-Restorers? Remember what we read in Isaiah 58:12: “And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.” Yes, we are commanded to be repairers of the breach made in God's law regarding the fourth commandment, on behalf of our Christian brethren who ignorantly transgress that commandment of God. Unfortunately, though, because of the failures of our watchmen on the walls of Zion, we must restore and recover other paths travelled by our pioneers. Confusion must be replaced with confidence in our beliefs.

Did Ellen White Become a Trinitarian?

We know that the pioneers, including Ellen White, were non-trinitarians. However, since Kellogg stated that he believed in the trinity and cited Sister White's writings to support his belief, the question needing to be answered is, “Did Ellen White eventually become a Trinitarian by the late 1890's?” In other words, was she inspired to change her written understanding about who God is? Did she also come to believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit? The answer is an unqualified No. If she did, then how could she dare rebuke Kellogg in 1903 and onward for bringing that same belief to light? Then she'd be a false prophet. The Holy Spirit would be called into question, too, if He changed what inspired her to write.

As the document evidence shows, Kellogg believed in the three gods of the Trinity—the same three that are numbered 3, 4, and 5 in our current Fundamental Beliefs. But Ellen White basically wrote of such concepts, “That's deadly heresy.” That means she never believed in the Trinity doctrine.

And was it God who told Ellen White to rebuke Kellogg? It certainly was, because she was writing under divine inspiration. Now if that's the case, then how could God inspire her to oppose the Trinity doctrine, if it is really truth?

[AdannaG]

Brethren, please note that Dr William Johnsson (an Australian Seventh-day Adventist theologian, author, and editor of the Adventist Review from 1982 to 2006) wrote the following:

‘Adventists beliefs have changed over the years under the impact of ‘present truth’. Most startling is the teaching regarding Jesus Christ, our Saviour and Lord … the Trinitarian understanding of God, now part of our fundamental beliefs, was not generally held by early Adventists’.

(William Johnsson, Adventist Review, January 6th 1994, Article: ‘Present Truth – Walking in God’s Light’).

[explorepapuanewguineamangi]

Amen Ps Randy.
A true man of God preaching the truth from the bible to this last generation.

[niviadouse]

The Holy Spirit speaks because it is none other than Jesus Christ Himself, not another separate third person....

The Lord is soon to come. We want that complete and perfect understanding which the Lord alone can give. It is not safe to catch the spirit from another. We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency 9LtMs, Lt 66, 1894, par. 18

[kanyohoho]

Lord have mercy on the people of the apostate nominal SDA church

[madoviavirivolomo]

Who else can't rap their head around the doctrine of trinity? It is really confusing... exactly!! It is a mystery that breeds confusion straight out of Babylon.
The Trinity is Not biblical.
You should study where the Trinity originated from. It surely is and was the foundation for many pagan worshipers. The papacy says that the doctrine of trinity is their central doctrine upon which all her other doctrine intwines.

Study to show thyself approved into the Lord. Prove all things upon the word and bible alone. Do your own research and search the truth BECAUSE if we lean on ministers and follow big crowds and congregations there come a time when they fall we also too shall surely fall😔

[omobereakabsa]

In the original language Matthew 28: 19- 20 jesus instructed them to "baptize in my name" reason why in acts the disciples were baptising in jesus name

[paulrichards]

For those of you who do not believe that The Holy Spirit is separate person, the Bible texts were given. You have a choice to believe or not.

[paulrichards]

KJV Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

[JamesPhiri-rzlk]

Please can ant trinitarian explain to me 1john 5:7

[danilopineiro]

Really appreciate your time with teaching the word of God 🙏. Thank you so very much your brother Jose from Puerto Rico happy Sabbath and God bless you. 🙏🇵🇷

[MaNhel-xpob]

If Matthew 28 is true, how come all of Jesus disciples didn’t baptized that way! Read Acts! They all baptized in the name of Jesus only!
And during Jesus baptism, didn’t your bible you just read said THE SPIRIT OF GOD? Did it read, GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT?

How readest thou?

Matthew 12: the blasphemy against the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven Thee cause as you said be careful when you say something against the SPIRIT OF GOD!

[Tmstudies]

2 Corinthians 3
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of
the Lord is, there is liberty.


Letter to Prescott W.W. E.G. White, Lt66, April 10,
1894
We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we
commune with God, we shall have strength and grace
and efficiency.

[ElijahAndMoses]

Does the church have Bible conferences where persons who research the scriptures can share their findings as scholars in other disciplines are able to do at academic conferences to extend the frontiers of knowledge? If they exist, they are largely unknown or not open for general participation, which explains why, although knowledge in other areas of study are advancing, the knowledge of scripture is limited, with old questions remaining unanswered and new ones creating confusion and uncertainty. Can interested persons come together and plan a Godhead Conference where all ideas concerning the subject can be aired and interrogated?

[oheneamoahbright]

The doctrine of the trinity is not biblical. None of our pioneers believed this teaching. God should have mercy on the church.

[rogermetzger]

There is a very basic subject that would help enormously when we are faced with a variety of opinions on any subject, especially if there seems to be a difference between what some of the pioneers taught and the way those same subjects are being taught by SdA clergy today. There IS an alternative to arguing about such things.

That alternative is to adopt the policy (as an alternative to criticizing the current officers of a local congregation, local conference, union conference or General Conference) of holding local elections no less often than once every two years and NOT electing the same person to hold any one office two election cycles in a row.

While it is true (as I understand it) that a person who is ordained as a deacon remains a deacon until his death (unless he comes under church discipline) and an ordained elder remains an elder until his death ( “ ) (i.e. such persons are not elected as deacons or elders each election cycle), the office of first elder (aka head elder) or first deacon (aka head deacon) should be held by a variety of persons (preferably not always someone from one extended family). That way, even if an officer is teaching something the members consider antithetical to Bible doctrine, it is possible to minimize the need to “discipline” that officer (temporarily depriving him of his office or his franchise to vote in local elections). He will be removed from that particular office as a matter of course. Whereupon it becomes a matter of whether, in subsequent elections, he is elected to that same office again.

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. - Romans 12:3

This means (among other things) that a person who thinks he is better qualified than anyone else to hold a particular office in the local congregation is thereby disqualified to hold that office.

One time when my wife and I moved from one state to another (U.S.A.), we attended the services of a few different congregations before deciding to request a transfer of our membership. One Sabbath after our membership was transferred, we received a handout with our bulletins which handout asked that we list the offices we had held in the past and to indicate which office we would prefer to hold after the upcoming elections. According to the handout, such requests would be honored “so far as possible”.

It was inappropriate for ANYONE to make that kind of a statement before the nominating committee had even been chosen AND that statement utterly ignored the advice in Romans 12:3.

Before there was any such thing as a Seventh-day Adventist organization, there was a denomination called the Christian Connexion. The majority of the clergy of that denomination objected to something about “the doctrine of the Trinity” as it was taught in other denominations. James Springer White was one of the Christian Connexion clergy who agreed with William Miller’s calculations of the end of the 2300 days and, subsequently, with the doctrine that the event that occurred at the end of the 2300 days was the beginning of a new phase of the high-priestly ministry of Jesus - the cleansing of the sanctuary in heaven.

Other members of the Christian Connection (including at least one of those clergy) became Millerites and, after agreeing with Miller’s calculations, continued not only to object to “the doctrine of the Trinity” but to edit Millerite publications.

I consider the God of the Bible to be triune (one God in three persons) but it is possible for me to express my understanding of the nature of God without using the word “Trinity”. Given that James White and some other of the pioneers of the nineteenth century advent movement objected to something about “the doctrine of the Trinity”, I think it is unfortunate that some SdA clergy choose to use that word.

How many of the people on this discussion thread can explain to me exactly what James White or other pioneers’ objection was to “the doctrine of the Trinity”?

[kamleshkailashkhandagle]

Thank you pastor for giving us the message of heaven. In short, And in detail.