Is God The Author of Sin? 1/5 - Calvinism Refuted! Jesse Morrell

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Jesse Morrell refutes the blasphemous charge that God is the author of sin, made by Calvinism, Lutheranism, Paganism, and Islam.
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Charles Finney said, “The apostle does not affirm, that a sinner cannot love God, but that a carnal mind cannot love God; for, to affirm that a carnal mind can love God, is the same as to affirm that enmity itself can be love.”

bibletheology
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I appreciate your presence on you tube...glad to see you making more videos! God Bless brother!!

HolySpiritDwells
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Very good, good video, good answers. Keep it up.
God bless you.

fernandop
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@Krustbox To serve righteousness or to serve sin is a choice of the will. The Bible says that men “yield” themselves to sin (Rom. 6:13). Paul said “ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity” (Rom. 6:19). To “yield” is to consent, surrender, or submit. A servant of sin is someone who chooses to obey sin. .

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Romans 3 describing the estate of sin says, "No one understands God, no one seeks God. All have turned aside together they have become worthless. No one does good not even one...For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin." This is the estate of man after the fall.Most of the reformed community sees a difference between these two different estates. The free will as you speak of it no longer exists apart from Christ.

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“Some one may ask, Can the carnal mind, which is enmity against God, change itself? I have already said that this text in the original reads, “the minding of the flesh is enmity against God.’ This minding of the flesh, then, is the choice or preference to gratify the flesh. Now it is indeed absurd to say, that a choice can change itself; but it is not absurd to say, that the agent who exercises this choice, can change it. The sinner that minds the flesh, can change his mind, and mind God”Finney

bibletheology
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@ambassador Actually the idea that Adam's sin somehow corrupted human nature so that free will was lost is a concept found in the writings of Augustine but is never explicitly stated anywhere in the Scriptures. It is taken as a theological assumption or a presupposition but is unfounded. In fact, after the fall God spoke to the son of Adam Cain as one who had a free choice between good and evil. And it was after the fall and before Christ that God said, "choose life" and who they will serve

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Thank you for your logical and historical clarity.

harrylight
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Eph 4:23-24 Be RENEWED in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. RENEWED means to reform or renovate...to make like new again! As God created Adam before the fall. Calvinist reject the Holy Spirits strength to RENEW the carnal mind...to hold to this belief would mean every soul would go to hell, because to be carnally minded is death...Romans 8:6. Great job Jesse and God bless

TrueCore
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God spoke to Cain after the fall of Adam as one who had the power of choice between obedience and disobedience. “And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him” (Gen. 4:6-7). Whatever the results upon all of mankind are because of Adam’s sin the loss of free will certainly are not part of it.

bibletheology
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One thing I learned from this video is from Clement of Rome, a contemperary of Paul himself, saying "Stop saying God manipulates the very thoughts on mankind." This is a DIRECT SLAP in the face of Calvinism and their view of the sovereignty of God. Who was thinking this way over 1000 years BEFORE either John Calvin, or Arminius, were born. FACINATING! Talking with Calvinists of today, they believe God ordains our very thoughts. They teach - God CANNOT be sovereign, if man has free will.

RickHJones
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can I get reference for this, from the bible? "Every rational soul has NATURALLY a good free will, formed for the choice of what is good"

RedemptionFORus
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'' God prepared for the fall before it happened, but it was not determined with certainty that Christ would die until it became necessary. '' my friend, can you give me reference for this?

RedemptionFORus
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I am a PRE-Calvinist, PRE-Arminianist, so there are doctrines from BOTH I reject, such as loosing one's salvation. Think of the quote from Clement of Rome in this video. Paul refers to Clement. Clement pre-dates BOTH men by 1000 years. There are those who RESIST God's calling them, Acts 7:51, so though God calls them, they reject Him. According to Calvinism, "Goats" are IGNORED by God, because "goats" are CREATED for hell.
This directly VIOLATES 2 Pet 3:9 God wants NO ONE to go to hell.

RickHJones
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No Judas didn't believe in genuine faith or else he would not have fallen away. Hebrews tells us that those who fall away were never actually a part of the genuine church. But as for this man in 1Cor 5, the excommunication is in an effort to bring him back in. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us."-1 John 2:19

ambassadorinchainz
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Just like the beginning of a movie is not the first second, but maybe the first ten to fifteen minutes.

bibletheology
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To have true sons God would need to create Man to have his own mind and make his own decisions. Only though having a choice can you choose. He wants very much for us all to choose rightly, but as with all things in nature many seeds are scattered, but only a few find good ground.

olBoblo
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Is Satan more powerful than God? Man is given free will. And given a choice between good and evil, Man chooses Evil? The Calvinists were right, Adam was Not one of the Elected...

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“Jesus answered them, verily, verily, I say unto you, whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.” (Jn. 8:34). Committing sin comes before being a servant of sin. A person is a servant of sin because they first choose to serve sin. You are the servant of whoever you choose to serve. “Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?” (Rom. 6:16)

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Now look I'm just gonna throw out there as someone who attends a Reformed Presby Seminary, No one here believes that God commits sin.Adam and Eve are culpable for their sin.Yet God of course knew in His omnipotence that they would sin.But the great truth is that what we gain in Christ is better than what Adam lost in the garden.Post fall we see man has lost free will as it was before the fall.It puts us into a state of spiritual death.We have an inability to do good.Romans 3 is extremely clear

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