MGS3 - Hidden Conversation about Ocelot's Birth

Metal Gear Solid 3 HD Edition:

Hidden Codec Conversation with Eva about Ocelot's Birth. Keep calling Eva while in the Chyornaya Peschera Cave Branch after you fight ocelot until this conversation starts.

I don't have recording equipment so this is obviously done with a camera, filming our HDTV in 720p, I also cranked the volume to ensure the conversation could be heard.

[TheStudioKidA]

This conversation happens so early in the game that it's easy to gloss over but WOW does it contain a shitload of important information. I'm glad I revisited it or I'd not have known who The Joy's son really is.

[Glassandcandy]

Wait, there are people who didn't know that the boss is ocelot's mother? Why do you think Snake loves Ocelot so much?

[NinjaKuma]

Big Boss was The Boss's adopted son, Ocelot was Big Boss's adopted son, funny how the world works.

[Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

"There's no such thing as miracles or the supernatural- only cutting edge technology!"

- Ocelot in Metal Gear Solid 2, the man whose father is a ghost and whose mother birthed him in the middle of the battlefield and both came out of it okay

[LuisOliva]

Probably one of (if not the) most important piece of information in the whole MGS saga and it's a hidden conversation in a cave.

[monsouranda]

Men I never thought that Ocelot is that young during snake eater

[Jumboobs]

good lord snake is stupid lmao
*gave birth on the battlefield*
*scar shaped like a snake*
"that's cool what about the hero?"

[Solid-Old]

Think about it guys... in MGS4, the FINAL fight is Son of The Boss VS. Son of Big Boss
Ocelot vs Solid

[christoptheillusiveman]

I heard this is why Ocelot can channel liquids spirit in mgs2, he’s inherited the Sorrows ESP

[UrobourosZero]

The Sorrow and The Joy (The Boss) are Ocelot's parents, and The Boss is the legendary hero (heroine is grammatically correct, but whatever).

[farhaanraja]

While it doesn't say it explicitly... the bosses speech at the end of the game pieces together that she is ocelots mother...

[jeremyarroyo]

O shit the boss is ocelots mother and the sarrow is his father 😨. Then that means snake and ocelot are brothers since boss was his serrorgate adopted mother.

[Muzzle]

So the boss treats naked snake like a son so she’s like a surrogate mother, and Ocelot is her legit son, but then they’d like to consider Liquid and Solid Snake to be Big Boss’ sons. So that makes Ocelot like their uncle? Or their brother because they’re clones, so it likely doesn’t take much to convince Ocelot that he is solid snakes brother.

[Firetomysoul]

never heard this conversation before. WOW. MInd blown.

[Thoraxx]

Still i can't believe the boss slaped Ocelot in the torture chamber in the fortress

[awsodude]

It was The Boss and The Sorrow. The Boss tells EVA, and EVA tells Snake that The Boss and The Sorrow were together, and the Patriots sent The Boss into battle when she was pregnant, and she had the baby right there on the battlefield. But the Patriots took him away. When Snake kills The Boss, her scar literally turns into a snake and slithers off, but in Peacewalker, Big Boss has that same sscaron his chest.

[rogueine]

So the baby was taken from her on the battle field and raised buy the Russians. So does the Boss know that Major Ocelot is her son during the events of MGS3? Does Ocelot know that the Boss is his mother?

[Shabazz]

Why didnt they directly addressed this, it should be a bigger deal then they made it.

[MaskedRider_FAIZ]

Has she known all along about Ocelot? The Boss I mean.

[rayjinflo]

ahah the one conversation that actually spelled it out and I find it nearly 15 years later