The Most Absurd Teaching of Calvinists: Which comes first, Regeneration or Faith?

A refutation of the Calvinist teaching that regeneration precedes faith.
00:00 Description of Regeneration
01:50 Godfrey and Mohler: Old Testament saints regenerated?
03:47 Grudem confuses regeneration and revelation!
07:12 Regenerated but not saved?
08:46 Refutation by Spurgeon
9:32 The hypocrisy of MacArthur
11:52 There is no RE-generation in Calvinism!

[peterwillett]

well done. key insight, they mistake revelation, particularly in OT Saints, with

[shakazulu]

You cannot be born again without faith in Christ. Calvinism teaches heresy! Jesus taught that the Holy Spirit convicts the separated sinner to enable them to believe. Dead sinners do understand through this conviction. God does not have to regenerate a sinner to get them to hear.


John 16:7-11
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

- "of sin"
(SINGULAR), "because they do not believe in Me"
The Holy Spirit convicts people of their unbelief in Jesus, which is the only sin that will lead you into Hell.

- "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more"
The Righteous One has risen and the sinner has no righteousness and is under God’s wrath

- "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged."
Satan is defeated and judged. Without Christ the sinner is under judgement, condemnation and the wrath of God

Clearly the Holy Spirit convicts the soul of the sinner, drawing them to see the truth.

Grace through faith. διὰ πίστεως
-Righteousness through faith
-Propitiated through faith
-Born again through faith
-Receive the Spirit through faith
-Sons of God through faith
-Saved through faith
-Raised with Christ through faith

[tedrowell]

We must be regenerated to even receive the gift of faith from God. Ephesians 2:8-9

[jpwministries]

Excellent video, I am in the middle of a 5 video series on TULIP

[richardjames]

Faith precedes regeneration
He that believes not is condemned ALREADY
(John 3:18)
How can you undo condemnation without faith?
Why is someone condemned?
Bc of a decree of God that they will not be able to believe? Or bc the verse said "they are condemned bc they did not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God"...
This says it all. They can believe, but they did not, that's why they are condemned!
They are not saved bc they didn't believe! There is NO SAVED UNBELIEVER

[jordomus]

I honestly think this could be a really great question to engage Calvinist on. However, the way you go about it is off-putting and seems like you are just preaching to your fanboys - a shame. This is evident firstly by the crap and provocative shirt you are wearing - maybe funny if you think like a 5-year-old. It's also clear in your statement that those who don't define regeneration the way you would like them to haven't "experienced regeneration" i.e. have not been saved (Born Again). But if they have confessed with their mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in their hearts God raised him from the dead then they are saved. So what a person perceives to be the logical (Not temporal) Order of Salvation should not make any difference of the Experience of regeneration, as it is rooted in faith as you say. So your statement is ridiculous. I actually appreciate your sincerity at the end of the video - where was it at the start? With grace brother, do it better next time and I might share it and discuss it.

Not that I am here to rebut you, but you talk about regeneration (as Calvinists define it) as being wrong according to its very definition, considering Calvinists believe that people are born dead in sin, therefore it can only be thought of as generation but not (re)generation. However, you believe one must be born again (I'm sure all agree). This implies a prior birth of course - but it was a birth into death was it not - a birth that could not save? Hence the need to be born again. It seems Calvinists could say the same of "regeneration" - We have already an "earthly generation" of the heart, but we need "generation again" or Regeneration - rebirth.

[kylestaack]

he obviously doesn't know scripture


Verse 13 explains verse 12

(John 1:12-13)
12But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God

[kylestaack]

How does God save His people from the pleasure of sin?
The answer is "By imparting to them a nature which hates evil and loves holiness "
This takes place when they are born again, so that actual salvation begins with regeneration.

Of course it does; where els could it commence? Fallen man can neither perceive his desperate need of salvation, nor come to Christ for it, till he has been renewed by the Holy Spirit...

[A.W Pink]

[luisbergantino]

Baptism: John 3:3-17 says that unless we're BORN OF WATER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT (BAPTISM), WE DON'T HAVE LIFE IN US.

[deniss]

"Have faith, then you will be made alive." Pardon?

[vertyisprobablydead]

A religious person calling another religion absurd is hilarious.

[tedrowell]

Are you saying Peter wasn't regenerated because he sinned after he was saved?
Regeneration has nothing to do with going to church. The thief on the cross only had faith. The tax collector in Luke 18 only cried out to God for mercy & he was justified. forget church, he wouldn't even raise his eyes to God he was so broken by his sin.