China's Aircraft Carriers are Catching Up...

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[RuminatingStoner]

Russia does not have an aircraft carrier. Russia has a floating ski jump that spends most of its time on fire or killing its crew or on fire killing its crew.

[getgaijoobed]

6:32 Liaoning/Varyag is a Kuznetsov Class “Heavy Aircraft-Carrying Cruiser, ” and not a Kiev Class vessel. Essentially it is the sister ship of Russia’s Admiral Kuznetsov, but upgraded and actually able to leave port without a tugboat (because China actually had the cash to maintain and modernize it)

[EricCoop]

Varyag was not a Kiev-class. She was to be the second of the Kuztnezov-class fleet carrier.

[AbbyNormL]

Technically, the US carriers are also steam driven. The difference is the source of heat used to boil water. I spent several years boiling water on US Navy fast attack submarines.

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1:30 - Chapter 1 - Early days
2:35 - Mid roll ads
3:40 - Back to the video
6:15 - Chapter 2 - The liaoning
10:35 - Chapter 3 - The shandong
14:05 - Chapter 4 - The fujian
18:25 - Chapter 5 - Type 004 & beyond

[bobbrown]

The Liaoning - When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.

[SVTCobra]

The main advantage of a big deck carrier is the ability to operate fixed wing AEW aircraft, which will vastly increase the air wing's effectivity.

[xsu-isvq]

The delay in 2017 was a redesign to switch from steam catapult to EMAL. originally the EMAL was planned on the next carrier after 003, but development was much faster than expected and beat out steam catapult in comparison tests.

[rammpage]

7:10 the answer is pretty simple, when purchasing those “retired” ships, Chinese made agreement with those countries that they would not be used as battle ships, and in case you haven’t realized, the Chinese government honored every international agreement or deal, so they kept their word.

[jorge]

7:00 Varyag ( Liaoning ) was NOT a Kiev class carrier

[philbarrett]

So the Australians knew to 'strip' technology off the vessel before 'selling' it but didn't think the catapult tech was interesting enough? 🤔

[Decrepit_biker]

The Kiev class is a very different ship to the Kuznetzov class Liaoning was refubished from and the Shandong was developed from.... come on Simon, you dropped the ball there!!

[jaro]

6:38 Kiev and Minsk were ships of the Kiev class but Varyag was second of the Kuznetsov class carriers. Kuznetsov was bigger and had a ski jump thatnks to which it supports different and heavier aircraft than Kievs do.

[magnaviator]

Varyag was a modern Soviet Stobar carrier (Admiral Kuznetsov class), you can see the Kiev class was more a helo carrier/cruiser.

[FlukeyM]

Nuclear reactors also produce steam. They just produce the heat to boil the water differently

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0:00: 🚢 The video discusses China's successful development of aircraft carriers and their strategic importance in modern military.
4:24: 🛫 China reverse engineered and replicated equipment from a retired Australian aircraft carrier, leading to the development of their own carrier fighter.
8:46: 🚢 The video highlights the significant role of China's aircraft carrier, the Le ning, in its naval arsenal and its operational history.
13:14: 🚢 The video discusses the advancements in China's naval technology, particularly focusing on the Shandong and Fujian ships.
17:02: 🚁 The video discusses the capabilities and potential upgrades of the Chinese aircraft carrier Fujian.
Recapped using Tammy AI

[henryorcustus]

The shipyard that is going to build 004 has just released the world's first molten salt reactor for a marine ship (a 300, 000 ton container ship). It is widely speculated that this container ship's purpose is to test out MSR reactor for large marine vessels. China currently leads the world in MSR technology. It is interesting to see China leap-frogging on certain areas of naval technology such as EM catapult and MSR reactors.

[sonicanarchy]

I was a nuclear engineer on the USS Eisenhower (CVN-69). China can build a nuclear powered aircraft carrier all they want, but it is nothing if they don't develop a pipeline to produce the engineers needed to run the power plants. The US Navy's NNPTC is the golden standard for producing the intelligent and skilled personnel to operate a naval nuclear programme. The US Navy has operated a nuclear programme for over 50 years without a single nuclear incident, and is considered the safest nuclear programme in the world. Much like how China built a bunch of new jets, but had no one to fly them, they started trying to recruit retired Air Force pilots from Australia, Canada and the UK to train new pilots to FLY these jets. It got so bad, these countries had to BAN their pilots from going to China and giving them western training. I feel this will also be true of Chinas emerging surface nuclear programme. It took decades for the US to perfect its nuclear programme. China wont be afforded that same time. If the Type 004 is completed within this decade, they are gonna have a lot of growing pains to create a pipeline to produce the engineers needed for such a HUGE ship. They can try to copy what they can get from the US Navy's nuclear training pipeline, but imitation doesn't translate to competent nuclear operators. I am very curious about the Type 004 because while every carrier before it was China walking before running, the Type 004 feels like running before they can walk. Maybe the 004 will be a training ship to fully flesh out their nuclear training pipeline, because I can't see it being anything else with China not having a surface nuclear programme in place already.

[Harrington]

The Kiew and Minsk (+ the Baku and Noworossijsk) were Project 1143, the Admiral Kusnezow and the Liaoning were Project 1143, 5. Because 1143, 5 are totally different from their four predecessors they are seen as a different class of ships. Fun-Fact: The Baku is now the Vikramaditya, the indian flagship, and the Noworossijsk was scraped in SouthKorea. All six are not even aircraft carriers, they are (heavy) aircraft cruisers. The reason is simple, military ships as heavy as the Gerald R. Ford class carriers are not allowed to cross Bosporus and the Dardanellen. They were all build in the Black Sea Shipyard in Mykolaiv, Ukraine, and a normal carrier wouldn´t be allowed to leave the Black Sea.

[johnsamu]

The unfinished ship was essentially NEW (although in disrepair) while the other carriers were already used before.
The way the Soviet Union/Russia uses their equipment means those other ships were probably completely worn out and in a very bad state.
It's the choice between two trainwrecks or one half build new train.