Interpreting the Hidden Meaning of the Bible | Matthieu Pageau EP 15

This episode was recorded on May 31st, 2022.

In this episode, Tammy welcomes Mattieu Pageau to discus his interpretations of the Bible. Mattieu is the brother of Jonathan Pageau, a frequent guest on Tammy’s channel. Tammy and Mattieu delve deep into the hidden meaning of the ancient scriptures.

Matthieu Pageau wrote The Language of Creation in 2018, which is an attempt to interpret the Bible by rediscovering its ancient cosmology. He has been independently studying biblical Hebrew since the age of 16 and eventually continued within the department of religious studies at McGill University, where he majored in Mathematics and Computer Science.

Mattieu’s book, The Language of Creation:

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[00:00] - Intro
[02:51] - Introduction to Mattieu Pageau
[05:50] - Mattieu's future writing plans
[07:37] - The Bible isn’t about morality
[13:56] - Learning from historical stories
[21:13] - Mattieu’s interpretation of the Bible
[26:20] - Tammy’s experience in the hospital
[29:06] - The experience of losing control
[31:36] - Discovering meaning at a young age
[34:56] - The current climate of our secular society
[36:24] - Understanding the simple truths over the complexities
[38:21] - The removal of sin from society
[41:57] - The importance of taking care of your needs
[45:48] - We often do not know what we want
[49:50] - The meaning of unleavened bread
[56:44] - The symbolic meaning of the sacrifice of an animal

[YouTubeComments]

So freaking excited to see Mathieu giving these interviews as of late.

[TheDonovanMcCormick]

Hopefully Matthieu continues talking to people. We been trying to get this guy to speak again for like 6 years now

[AFringedGentian]

Oh what a delight. Matthieu is turning into such a social butterfly. So good to see you, Tammy, I hope you and Dr. Peterson are both well.

[cmelora]

I was one of those who left the church and got far away from my belief only to wake up during COVID. I saw departing from God’s ways that something tyrannical was taking its place and taking control of our lives. That shook me out of my sleep and brought me back into a deeper meaningful relationship with God. I eventually came across podcasts like this, Jordon Peterson, Jonathan Pegeau and many others on his podcast that slowly reeled me back in. Today I’m finding a different and more meaningful way of the importance of understanding Biblical stories than when growing up in a church.

[DerekJFiedler]

First Jordan, now this? What a treat. Thank you for the engaging discussion. Glad to see Matthieu healthy and sharp.

[bertibear]

Love the way Tammy is so natural.Seeing someone like this is so refreshing.

[TammyPetersonPodcast]

The author MP mentioned is Renee Geneon

[carriescott]

This conversation is a gift to me. It illuminates a lot of ideas that I haven't been able to reconcile or that I have been neglecting because I couldn't make sense of them. Thank you for reminding me to focus on the importance of the circumstances rather than my own understanding of them.

[sovereigntindall]

Thank you so much for your videos. I started reading Matthew's book recently and so this is talk is really helpful for me to understand it on a deeper level. There is so much important information to be found in the "four horsemen" and Pastor Paul's work. I've been thinking lately it would be nice to have more women involved in this corner of the internet. You're really the only one I've found so far and I really appreciate what you've been giving us . Keep going with it!

[charlierose]

Hi, Tammy!! Your voice is so calming. Thank you for starting your own podcast!
P.S. I’m muslim but I’ve started wearing a rosary for you ♥️

[hollywiley]

Miss Tammy u are precious.. this is what the Bible says

2 Corinthians 12:9-10 NIV

But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

[palmtree]

I wish he would write a book on symbolism for children—lol then maybe I can start to understand it before tackling his book 👏

[josephtravers]

I understand Mattieu's approach to speaking. Words carry a very heavy consequence. Wisdom is knowing when not to speak. We are literally judged by our words and deeds. Let us be cautious. 🙏

[lindav]

I love that I found this!! I am a person of faith also, and really appreciate Tammy's sharing with us her experience with "near death" and how it relates to acknowledgment that God is always in control.

[duckslinger]

Love these Tammy. God Bless your family. Matt is such a great thinker, him and John are powerhouses. Thank you again.

[AnaBrigidaGomez]

Beautiful. I hope Matthieu keeps being a guest and eventually opens his own channel. His strange ideas are wonderful

[awe_labs]

Part that struck me the most was when Matthieu said some thing along the lines of "it's not about understanding the meaning of story but rather about understanding the importance of the story...that is wisdom". Wow. Thank you. I was listening to this while calibrating hydrophones :D

[PmdTV]

i was looking for videos of him everhwere after his jp podcast. i watched the ones with his brother, but his understanding now compared to years ago is much sharper. He really is a very good voice and needs to do more interviews. Thank you Matthieu, thank you tammy

[redbeard]

This is the first time I've listened to one of Tammy's podcasts and I love it! She is deep and intellectual! This is a great conversation that I bet I will listen to more than once!

[eveningprimrose]

The Pageau brothers have the most winsome smiles 🙂