Scientists just discovered a mysterious isolated Neanderthal population

Thorin's population split from other European Neanderthals around 100,000 years ago and stayed separate despite geographical proximity. Unlike Homo sapiens and other neanderthal groups, who maintained mating networks to avoid inbreeding, This Neanderthal lineage showed no evidence of similar social structures.

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[darylwilliams]

Current thinking is that Neanderthals lived in isolated kin groups without much contact, and this certainly seems to support that hypothesis. It is also thought that modern human's superior networking and trade abilities helped them survive through the harshest downturns of the climate which killed off Neanderthal populations, who very much dependent on their own resources.

Being isolated for 50, 000 years in the middle of the Neanderthal range is astonishing.

[henrysanchez]

Modern views and patterns have NO bearing on what motivated and drove ancients to do what they did, the Basques also maintained long term isolationism.

[pedropechorro]

Perhaps some groups were feared because they were cannibalistic, other groups avoided them. There is evidence of that in Spain.

[MichaelLee-gn]

Neanderthals had their hillbillies too

[tessjuel]

There is no way Thorin's people could have lived in isolation in the Rhone Valley for 50, 000 years. A few generations perhaps but even a thousand years would be too long. So they must have been fairly recent immigrants to the region and the genetic split must have happened somewhere else.

[FrankBlissett]

One caution would be that we do not know where his home group was located. Populations do tend to move only slowly (usually), but individual people can travel quite long distances.

[sandramorey]

The population of the Andaman Islands off of India seems to be thriving & it is thought that they migrated out of Africa some 50, 000 years ago & ended up on the Andaman Islands. They want no contact with the outside world & every film I've seen of them indicates that their health is
excellent, so this does not surprise me.

[michelelane]

Quite a while ago I remember reading about Tolkien’s creation of his characters was based on historical documents that he had access too. It would be fascinating if any of the information he used is available now. It has to be 50+ years ago now. I wonder how long this information has been available to the general populace. Learning is more fun now with different perspectives available. I really enjoyed and appreciate the work done here.

[Heretowatchstuff]

Can we tell if Thorins DNA spread to other groups. Maybe they would force people to leave if they procreated with outsiders. There could have been some religious difference or they just didn’t like the way those other people grunted. There could be a lot of reasons to want to stay separate. With the way they kept the same tool design could mean they don’t accept change easily. But it’s hard to think everyone would keep that up for so long. That’s what makes me wonder if the “tainted” ones were killed or banished.

[raymondwolken]

Fifty thousand years of isolation, wow. Thanks for your presentation 😊

[paulofearghail]

It was not the "last ice age." It was the most recent glacial period of the current ice age, which began around 2.5 million years ago and continues to this day. What we are experiencing now is one of many warm interglacial periods that have occurred during this ice age. And this one is not even the warmest. Eventually the Earth will naturally cycle back into another glacial period, though we will not be around to experience it.

[marjoriegoodwin]

I totally agree. I often think about our predecessors and always marvel that people do not give enough thought to the nasty germs which Homo-Sapien introduced to Neanderthal. To me it as clear as day. I am so grateful that you have brought this up, for your audience to ponder. Thank you my good man.

[briseboy]

The people of the border region between Assyria and Egyptian empires, in Samaria, notoriously kept to themselves, and their genetic homozygosity also tdndewd not to retain the lethal alleles like thalassemia. This population of H sapiens did only remain so about 1500 years, but their genomic similarity was regarded as remarkable for both the chosen inbreeding and lack of the damaging mutations persisting in most of our populations.

The artist rendering of H neanderthalis in this video appears not to reflect modern understanding of their facial and cranial features.

[patricksanders]

They were born without the wanderlust genes.

[JohnH-momb]

A mysterious isolated Neanderthal population? I thought you were talking about the Canadian government.

[barrybarlowe]

It sounds to me, like the researchers involved have gone down a rabbit hole. If it doesn't make sense, go back and look, again.

[billsadler]

Origins of conservatism. Seems Thorin didn't die out after all.

[hss]

What if thorins shared a common spoken language? So different from those other groups that contacts became unresolvable and therefore hostile.

[perfesser]

Reminds you of the Sentinelese natives.

[bryan]

"as some Ancient Astronaut theorists claim..." - That kind of video.