Ben Shapiro Thinks God Makes You Free

[Raptor]

"God is necessary for these thoughts."

Citation needed.

[raybbaby]

"Ben Shapiro is what stupid people think a smart person sounds like". Not sure who said that, but damn is that on the money.

[Hedgemonkey]

TLDR: the "facts don't care about your feelings" guy has some very strong opinions based on his feelings.

[Amanita._.Verosa._.]

*God is necessary for these thoughts*

Also Ben:

*We can't understand God's logic*

[MrBevoRules]

There couldn't be more difference between Ben and Alex. Ben talks fast, throws out a bunch of impressive sounding words, never explains or backs any of it up, and constantly strawmans the other side. Conversely, Alex speaks slowly and thoughtfully, explaining each step of the way, so those of us more inclined to science than philosophy have some chance of understanding, all while honestly explaining apologist arguments better than they do.

[LeSatan]

Ben said his best argument is that god exists because there is a free will if you believe in it. 💀

[sleepninja]

Ngl It’s pretty hilarious to argue that you’re only free if u have a guy watching everything u do, who calls himself both our judge and king and who’s will we are supposed to follow or be punished forever.

[macewindu]

"If people's houses are going to be flooded, people can just sell them and move"- Ben "The Genius" Shapiro

[scienceexplains]

“Just” bags of meat?
No, thinking bags of meat.
“Just” is often an equivocation in these arguments.

[absolutebuffoon]

I believe morality evolved through natural selection, as social beings, it makes sense for us to have practices which promote the safety, well being, and continued function of the group. Also "Morality couldn't exist without God because I cant imagine how" is an argument from ignorance

[paulgilson]

Ben is one of those people that knows a lot of words and stats but fails at everything else.

[stevenaustin]

I was given to believe that this Ben Shapiro was supposed to be some kind intellectual heavyweight lol😂

[ahah]

Ben Shapiro is just another word salad maker

[needbettername]

Alex, don't lower yourself to Shapiros level of intelligence. He'll beat you with experience.

[seanharman]

My first thought when he says "God is necessary for these thoughts" is "How do you know that?" And how do you even know there's a God in the first place?

[iconoclastvii]

"Ita clear that the answer to everything is this thing we invented that simply has the properties required to magically fart everything into existence."

[thefuturespast]

Goes hard not gonna lie. If you cant control your desires then you are not free. Alex is the real motivational speaker

[jackbaynes]

"If we cannot ultimately control our desires, we cannot be free"

This debate all comes down to the definition of freedom. There are BILLIONS of ways in which freedom can be expressed, which include absence of tyranny and oppression, chaos, rule-breaking, antitheism, liberation theology...

[ianwilliams]

I don't know how any living human being would take anything Ben says seriously. 😅😅

[girlfromlacounty]

"Religion implies that we can't be moral without big brother, it is the essence of sadomasochism, abjection, and the slave-master relationship." - C. Hitchens