GENESIS V. DARWIN: Shapiro sets the record straight about the creation of man

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Can the Genesis account and some form of evolution be reconciled? Ben Shapiro's answer might surprise you .

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“Sets the record straight”??? Since when is Shapiro any kind of an authority on this? All he did was set the record straight on why he personally chooses to pick and choose which portions of the Bible he wants to believe.

mkoic
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There are two facts from Genesis that you cannot take to be allegorical:

I) God spoke everything into existence; He created everything.

ii) He created man in His image, and man disobeyed His word and died spiritually (and then physically).

If you want to debate the time frame, etc., that is a separate, less important discussion. But as soon as you say that Adam and Eve were allegorical or that God didn't create everything by speaking, then you have a huge problem.

classycactus
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Finally something Ben and I disagree on.

kainable
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I would pay good money to see a debate between Ben Shapiro and Richard Dawkins.

AndrewMSmith
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Guessing Ben appreciated this questioner more than most as he was respectful and informed. I actually disagree w/Ben on this ... but 2 people discussing it respectfully is refreshing anyway

michaelcasile
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Actually he didn't answer the question. He just repeated it, in more detail.

gdevelek
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For the first time I disagree with almost every point Ben is making in this video.

creinbold
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Yeah, um, the Hebrew word for day, "Yom" (put a macron over the "o"), literally means nothing else but day. Also, it is a possibility that created the earth with the APPEARANCE of age. Did he create Adam and Eve as infants? No. So it's perfectly reasonable to believe that God created the earth with appearance of age. Plus, just because it doesn't make sense for God to do something, or you think that if he did do it would happen this way, doesn't mean he didn't do it. I am a huge fan of Ben Shapiro, but I disagree with him on this.

kennyblankenship
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The sun/light argument is the equivalent of "Where did God come from?" or "If man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"

I mean, you're willing to accept that God can create everything from nothing, but not that light can come before the sun?

JonGreen
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This is the first thing on which I find myself disagreeing with Ben. There is no allegory in Genesis. I put my faith in God's Word over man's interpretation of science. God called His creation "very good" when He finished. He also says (later) that it was by man's sin that death entered the world. If we try to fit Darwinian evolution into the Genesis account, then we must accept lots of death in a "very good" world before sin. The light that God refers to before the sun is Himself... His brilliance was sufficient. Macroevolution is not science in the strictest definition of the word. It cannot be tested, observed, or repeated.

leeshapiro
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The only phrase that would set the record straight would be "That book is written by unscientific people in a time where they basically had no explanation for anything, so please don't take this shit literally in any way, thanks!"

HansDampf
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The Bible says elsewhere that we will need no light in heaven, that God uses simple things to confound the wise, and that nothing has remained the same in the earth since sin entered the picture.

brittanym
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Dude, I totally lost you. Ben has some great information and thoughts, but this is not one of them.

autumnkeffeler
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Genesis 1:5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. [b]So the evening and the morning were the first day.

himynameisjohnwumsh
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You ever notice how creationists have to act like the field of evolution never moved beyond Darwin's original thesis because if they did they'd have literally no argument whatsoever

erikgilson
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Ben's response is genius. I've been dealing with quite a few creationists lately, who let their faith cloud their basic judgement. I'll use this next time they decide to argue with me.

TheRealityWarper
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Ben is at his best when addressing Social ills---but he really
doesn'f understand the Scriptures. It takes MORE than just
brains to discern Bible revelation.

raygsbrelcik
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If you need to argue about Evolution you know that its about time to leave the room.

CharlesSmith-vkco
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A very good argument against creationism Ben. Thank you for being so logical.

eddsroomedds
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Ben is fine for a narrow section of politics but I will believe God over a Messiah rejecting Talmud obeying person.

KevTCC