Why Coyote Swap VS 4.6 Mod Motor Is Not Even Close

Coyote Engine VS 4.6 Mod Motor
In this battle we take a stock Coyote engine vs a On3 turbo Mod Motor. The Coyote engine is becoming increasingly popular as a engine swap. Is it more cost effective to coyote swap your Sn95 or boost your stock Sn95 engine. The results of this battle is not even close.

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[BMGYGK]

People don’t get it.

I built a 1000 rwhp 2v (engine / block built for 1300) for way way cheaper then I could build the same Yote for.

You’re 100 percent right my man. I keep telling people. Build your 2v you’ll thank me later.

[MillennialDad]

I swapped my car for $4000 plus the engine. The series start to finish is all on my channel. All you need is an engine, $1900 for coyote control pack, 350 for a k member, 300 for fuel pump and c5 return regulator, 400 for headers, 750 for belt drive, $40 for spring perches, 100 for a pedal bracket. motor mounts transfer over, mid pipe and catback can be mated to the swap headers. The rest I spent on exhaust couplers and wires for battery relocation. I turned around and sold my 4.6 setup for 1500, so realistically it was the engine plus 2500 bucks.

[DriftyBits]

I think thought to actually compared these you MUST include EVERYTHING needed to get there. Coyote or 4.6 2v. Basically it's like cherry picking.

I'm not against the 2v, they are fun motors. Still debating pulling my 2v NPI to throw in my 79 Pace Car. Lol.

But, if your going to do a "cost per hp" comparison. You have to include the fuel system and drivetrain. The drivetrain could be considered a "bonus" cause you do not have to put a clutch, Trans, gears ect. To actually complete the Turbo setup, but you do need fueling. Also on top, you need to include a tuning setup. You can't just slap a on3 turbo and it instantly makes 450hp. You need tuning.

Personally, I think your close but once you add all the necessary stuff on both sides, you'll find the Coyote is a great cost option.

Your building a 2v, or going to a stock Coyote. Either way, it's gonna be a fun ride. And this is coming from someone with a 4v Cobra.

[Sn]

I just think the cobra 4v is a special engine, it was built by hand the builder signed a plaque on it! so it feels like it has some soul imo, coyote is an awesome engine but it feels like an nice new great working appliance to me, they're everywhere just like LS engines. That new Samsung fridge is awesome it does everything it has a monitor showing what's in it but that big vintage Sub Zero fridge from back in the day is just classy. Just my worthless 2 cents.

[jbp]

I bought a 01 cobra with a bad engine to specifically coyote swap. At the end of the day from a $ standpoint it didn’t make sense. I swapped a junkyard aviator engine and sold my old engine for a net cost of $200. Added a $2500 supercharger and make 450 at the wheels.

[bassettjj]

Don't get me wrong, the coyote motor is awesome but I really don't like the sound of it, especially compared to the 4.6 2v and the old 5.0.

[MikesGarageRoute]

Another great video! You invested a lot of time putting it together.
Speaking for myself, I am against Coyote swaps.

[Eli-rebh]

I agree. With a stock gen 1 Coyote you're starting off with close to stock Terminator territory. That's with zero additions. This concept is really pretty simple. I couldn't imagine daily driving a coyote swapped Fox/SN95/NE and then having any form of boost. HOWEVER, as much as I love the sound coyotes make, there is nothing that compares to the iconic sound of the supercharged 4.6 4V. In my opinion. Not even the hellcat, not even CTS-V's or the Vettes etc etc.

[Jesse_L]

Great video man. This is great information!

[peterchristlieb]

As a builder, it’s important to stay on top of what’s new and what people want to build to be successful. As good as the Coyote is, It’s physical size is huge in relation to its displacement and at what power level do you exceed its strength start to expose the weak points? I’ll go out on a limb and say there are a few stroked Windsors out there with enough compression and cylinder head to outrun a coyote without the added fuel system and ignition. When do you step back and put in a conventional small or big block?

[IzumiSRR]

I mean the coyote is the evolution of the engine. You got to remember the had to make more power while meeting emissions and whatnot in love both so I really do I love my coyote. Looking to get mine to around 700-800 hp I really don’t wanna say one is better than the other. They have their applications and they do them well.

[b.b.]

I was going to swap a coyote in my 03’ Marauder. I found a good deal on a brand new Gen 3 short block (never taken off the crate from Ford). Sourced the top end from a ‘20 F150. I found a low mileage 10r80 from a Mustang and dreamed of playing with Scat Packs on the way to the grocery store. I knew this would be a little more than I could handle so I sourced a reputable shop and found a really good one. I dropped the engine off at the shop for them to assemble and prepare the installation. After they tallied up all of the main things, it was cheaper to either do a 3-2-1 or get a Gen 2 long block. The harness and headers were a big expense outside of my initial investment and labor (about 4k). I couldn’t justify that in my head. I then started looking for a Terminator motor (it just about swaps right in with very little modification, if using the stock supercharger pulley bracket). I found one and decided to go that route. I put the parts on FB market place and if it doesn’t sell, I have a fox body that the engine can go into.

[RAHSVT]

This was a great debate once again I'm definitely biased lol you really can't beat the sound of a modular motor in my opinion but hey 😂

[payamkhobdeh]

LKQ Online is where I would go, has a warranty etc for junkyard engine

[ConcussedGaming]

A gen ONE (weak bottom end) Mustang motor is about 5k at any scrapyard pulled from a Mustang. A Gen II you're not touching for probably less than 7k unless it's blown up. You can cheat and go get a Gen one F150 motor for between 1, 500 and 3k but it is NOT the same as a Mustang engine. All the 4V 4.6 motors are between 1, 500 and 3k and make what the stock Coyote does with Cams and ported C heads and an intake. There is nothing "Cheap" about a Coyote and people need to quit arguing it is. It makes GREAT power with a TON of

[props_does]

Budget will always be subjective. You left a lot on the table for both builds. But in the end, I think you are correct. One thing you didn't mention that i think is important. Torque! A turbo setup is going to produce significant torque. Probably even more than the NA coyote.

[kskip]

And any version of the 4.6 sounds WAAAAY better than a Coyote!!

[justlightitandrun]

Ok so the 4v 4.6 it has a aluminum block wouldn't that make it a more desirable platform to make 800hp and up?

[bodyshotjake]

4 years ago the swap was half the price it is now with the gen 1. The motors are getting cheaper but the needed accessories are more than double the price now.

4 years ago you could find swap headers for under $400 pre tax.

Control pack was less than $1000 priced out from Ford.

Now your doing all this work to slap a 150, 000 mile motor in the car, that’s crazy

[aramisnorwood]

If you have a 4.6 engine already there is no need to change the k member if choosing coyote that’s only if you’re coming from a pushrod 5.0