Were Games Workshop Models Better 20 Years Ago?

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[soupcake]

My favourite kind of sprew is "here's 10 torsos, 10 legs, 18 heads, 20 pairs of arms and a bunch of random bullshit, they're all interchangable, go nuts."
Most fun i had building minis was with the old guard command squad. I made some fantastic characters for my army with that. My company commander had a huge cape from the sniper arms. I also used it to give almost every guardsman with a plasma gun some kind of broken arm, bandage or robot arm. And I made one guy throwing a grenade with about 10 other grenades hanging off him.

[michaelkocwin]

Jay… don’t say models are 20 years old and then say they came out in 2004… I don’t need that kind of negativity in my life!!!

[KrakDuk]

Yes. Also here before Jay fixes “where GW models better”😏

[Brickfrog]

I think the new Skaven Clanrats are incredible for what they are. TWENTY models to a single big sprue, each with unique and dynamic poses, two can be built as a leader, two can be a musician, two can be a banner bearer. It really is so neat in what they accomplished.

[MonjiO]

The Chapterhouse lawsuit spurned a lot of these changes, as did the rise of 3D printing. In 40k and AOS, their most popular games, models are harder and more complicated to build than they were 20 years ago.

20 years ago, the entire plastic ranges of Orks in 40k and then Warhammer Fantasy were swappable. All Space Marines and Chaos Marines had the same 9ish plastic parts and each of them were interchangeable with one another.

In my opinion, models of that era, while certainly lower in detail than today's models, were so much more fun to hobby on. Progress, from building to painting, was so much faster. And, because you had so much interchangeable parts, armies felt so much more unique and distinct.

[mycatistypingthis]

Consider the ogre Blood Bowl team for more dynamic ogres.

My favourite sets are Frostgrave/Oathmark/Stargrave sets, easy to pose, lots of female minis and you can (almost) freely mix and match bodies, arms and heads between sets

[PaladinCaddy]

the thing i've found going from 3rd edition 40k to 10th (i didn't play 4th - 9th, didn't collect, didn't look at, bought a couple novels but that's it) is that there was a bit more casual freedom with the old models, pretty much everything now is "build it this way, or you'll have to cut, and sand, and putty your way to unique poses." like i remember being able to set up space marines and orks in just any old pose arms were lose torsos on a swivel etc, and now as a build votann and new ork kits .... they're all like "do it exactly this way" theres not a lot of freedom of choice unless you want to cut and sand and putty and glue, and kitbash, your way into unique models.

[MrGBH]

The way they did the Ogres back then is how I wish they did Primaris now.
A sprue that contains nothing but Primaris torsos, legs, backpacks, heads and miscellanea (Purity seals, pouches, grenades, etc). And use different sprues for weapons and arms options.
Much better than making monopose Marines for every single squad choice, which can't be kitbashed because nothing ever lines up.

[nathanlovin]

Other model makers are still making fun kits like this - kitbashing with a lot of the Frostgrave kits are super modular and I've had so much putting them together.

[kjellizar]

I've put together 3 eldar tanks. It wasnt fun at all. You basically get 1 picture "this is what it looks like fully assembled! Good luck"

[Flash_Git]

I've only ever experienced painting newer models due to joining the hobby around 2 years ago, but I still love newer sculpts (just not the monopose bits)

[barborahavranova]

Freeguild Cavaliers are an excellent example of modern modular kit and it gave me huge amount of happiness to put it together - I think you would love it

[OddNumber]

I remember buying the Ogor Kingdoms release White Dwarf when I got into the hobby :D it's wild that they haven't been refreshed yet

[kenupton]

I remember when the Ogres came out. That issue of WD was incredible. Ogres, Iron Warriors studio army showcase, movie Marines, and so much more.

[bjschultz]

Always love the enthusiasm you have using your creativity to "fix" models and really make them your own. I love the building aspect of Warhammer and followed your basing videos and really really love what I've been able to create as a result.

From watching your videos like these, where you have to mold and adjust on the fly, or ones where you come up with a new paint scheme - I've finally left the "paint paralysis" stage and have started to shed the fears of starting out painting. Keep up the great content Jay and Nick!

[noops]

Ogors are great for anyone who wants to do some conversions… they can be a bit static but with how simple they are a repose is great

[islandofrobgaming]

Thanks so much for drawing attention to Ogres as an Ogres army collector it's really good to see them getting recognition I love the kits I'd love for the army to be better supported than it is

[gaborboth]

I understand the joy of what you're saying! The Chaos Spawn kit is similarly ancient, but it has so, so many bits, and with the way those dull holes are made, there's so much room for creativity. It took sketching out monster designs and greenstuff work, but it was some of the most fun I've had with a kit.

[nathanguice]

I frequently dive into these classic Ogre sprues to customize my Kroot. The gut-plates in particular are super easy to repurpose into pauldrons for Krootox. The snack meat hooks are seamless additions as well.

[JonnyBaggs]

I bought the Skaven last month from Skaventide, didn't realize it was all push to fit, next to nothing was interchangeable.
I have waited for years for new Skaven and I have not been let down this hard in a long time in the hobby.
I was absolutely bored and uninspired putting them together. Killed my motivation for Warhammer before it even got a chance to start. Back to Bolt Action I go.