The War Thunder Tank Iceberg Explained

Tanks in War Thunder are the most popular way to play, and are also arguably the most complex game mode. As such, it has many things that are either unknown, forgotten, or are simply paid no mind. In this video, I'll go over many concepts, notions, tanks, and more, from the most known to arguably least known, all in the iceberg format.

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[veritusahriman]

AMX-50 Surblinde, a tank so rare it was forgotten even in an iceberg video

[derritter]

I didn’t even notice White Rock Fortress and Red Desert got removed from rotation until you mentioned it rn. I haven’t seen those maps in a bit.

[Oddball_E]

Just a bit of clarification about the Free Abrams thing.

It wasn't people asking Sean for free things.
It was because there was a pretty massive movement on the forums and reddit to get Gaijin to either lower the cost to research parts and FPE or to remove them as researchable modules completely (thus giving them for free) and it was basically just people spamming the Devs about "Free FPE and Parts!" in every venue they could.

And during Sean's stream they kept doing that in chat and him being woefully disconnected from the grind of the game (being a content creator actually working for Gaijin and thus being able to just have everything spaded all the time without grinding) and also biting into the company line quite hard, he got really upset about that and basically called everyone spoiled little children and said "Free FPE and Parts, Free FPE and Parts, why don't we just give everyone a Free Abrams while we're at it!?".

You know... because he was a twat.

(Sorry about that last part, but he really was. It was essentially the "let them eat cake" version for WarThunder.)

[abioticleech]

They didn't actually remove the old french reserve tanks, you can still research them by unlocking french rank 2

[mymarmz]

In my time of doing 7.7, the only time i ever see an E-100 is when i take my own out to battle lol. I can also testify the E-100 has a hidden stat gaijin never posted. It comes with a 15% buff to teamwork haha

[stragepinetree]

23:40 the e-100 is not regularly sold at all. I dont think one has traded hands since 2019 and before that they were still EXTREAMLY rare on the market place.

[monolitwoods]

A little extra for the free abrams part, it went downhill very fast for gaijin as they began to disable comments and dislike button on their channel. They then got BVVDs (lead dev) brother for a "apology video" where he tried to explain why the playerbase was wrong (he looked like he was at gunpoint from Anton and Kirill). Eventually after tonnes of backlash from CC and posts they decided to lower the RP a little for FPE and parts, but still held their original stance. Shaun was also seen a lot less, in fact I think he is only used for voicing some videos or dev steamers as a translator at most before they replaced him and Bruce with the new guy.

[mlgrocket]

i think the funniest part about the leaked documents is the fact that the chinese one for a new apfsds round was actually worse than most of the current apfsds shells the nation currently has in game. so that person leaked documents for a shell that wouldn't have helped the nation at all

[TheOreoOverlord]

I didnt realize they removed white rock fortress, it's too bad, I love that map.

[lapajgoo]

I'll add this slight correction about the Ho229 statement.

By the time the war ended the prototype has been somewhat tested by the germans and there are records of it performing against other german aircraft like the 262 and so on. It was mostly plagued by mechanical problems that were around every other german machine so that wouldn't reflect on the gameplay. Later it is believed that allies did extensive testing with it so it was very much a real war machine that just didn't make it into production and therefore the combat. At worst I can see it being added as a premium nowdays.

[Messer_dev]

One thing that could be on the list.
There was a time, when you could knockout tank crew and the tank didn't explode, so while playing Sim Battle it was common to see tank on you right, get a panic attack to realise it was wreckage that wasn't destroyed by explosion etc.

[presidentirinavladimirovna]

It feels weird having played the game for so long I know all the iceberg stuff, but only being top tier in Japan. The grind is pain

[ODST_Parker]

WOO! Once again, firmly entrenched at the bottom of that iceberg as an Italy main! I swear, I will spade every single vehicle in their air and ground tech trees eventually. Once I get the VBC out of the way, it's on to my first Ariete.

[manofharlech]

I've got the feeling, that overpressure has been tweaked (nerfed) recently. What used to be an instakill by the Brummbär on KV-1s is now doing nothing but a "hit", with a bit of luck a damaged gun barrel or tracks. Also bombs, if not landing just right next to the tank, now tend to only cause damage to tracks, gun barrels and sometimes engine and/or gearbox but the crew is intact, at least in my experience with heavy tanks. First noticed this when the Strumtiger has been released...

[flyingscotsman]

Dying to one of the removed tanks (except the maus) is one of the few times I'm never annoyed I died because I know the player who has them is almost certainly much better than I am because of how long they will have been playing

[mydogbullwinkle]

The way I see it, Sim mode IS the game. Arcade and Realistic are just practice modes to get players up to snuff. I wish they didn't bury it beneath the lobby UI. I feel like more folks might be inclined to play it, and then maybe the matchmaker will find me someone to play with this Christmas.

[cade]

You didn’t mention the old Battle Royale mode. I loved that mode. So much fun.

[SulphuricPotatoe]

Ground arcade is nice, I think it’s fun and kinda like a zombies mode and the boosters are helpful for the grind

[KibuFox]

With the Kugleblitz, and the change to the German AA tech tree, I can actually provide some information.

Back in the day, when Ground Forces was in testing, Germany only had a single AA vehicle. That being the panzer 1 chassis with the AA gun on it. At the time, a user by the name of Katyusha, proposed an entire technical tree for the German AA. The user didn't just say "do this this and this" but actually provided information on everything. From the vehicle's build dates, how many were built, if they actually saw combat, and so on. This included the Panther Coellian, which even then Katyusha noted was a 'paper' plan, but that they couldn't really find anything that fit otherwise.

Gaijin in turn took what Katyusha had proposed, and working with them, implemented it. All the way up to the Kugelblitz. They actually brought them on as an advisor of sorts, working directly with the developers to hash out the details of the old german AA line, strengths, and weaknesses.

Interestingly, there was one other proposed vehicle, which didn't get very far in the development phase. The developers loved the idea, but at the time, the game technology wasn't such to make the vehicle actually work. That vehicle was the "Flak Maus." The FM was proposed to have a pair of long barreled .88 mm guns in the turret, with the ability to elevate almost to a 90 degree altitude. Ideally, the gun would have had used only shrapnel rounds, with the research being first a 'timed' round, and then later a proximity fused round. However like I said, at the time, the game technology wasn't there to make it happen. There was also a fear of players using the then 'top tier' AA gun to fight tanks, which wasn't in line with what Gaijin wanted at the time.

As thanks for the information, Gaijin hired Katyusha as one of their technical moderators, and modified their account, unlocking every single vehicle in the German AA line that Katyusha had proposed.

[BDP]

Kinda wish you talked about AI in ground battles on maps like carpathians and jungle, maps being reworked like volo or kursk or gaijin removed dead tanks from places like berlin, the removed "break" game mode (throwback), bomb targets in ground rb, and I guess for a more general war thunder iceberg, the war thunder assistant app that had gambling among other things. and OF COURSE war thunders brief "battle royale" mode. There was more I thought to add but I can't seem to remember