DEBATE | Double Predestination - Jeremiah Nortier vs. Marc Gajeton

This is the Great Double Predestination Debate!

Donny Budinsky moderates a formal debate between Jeremiah Nortier and Marc Gajeton on Double Predestination.

Debate proposition - The Scripture teaches Double Predestination.

Affirmative - Jeremiah Nortier
Negative - Marc Gajeton

Moderator - Donny Budinsky

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[dokidokibibleclub]

Awesome guests and awesome debate! Thank you debaters and Donny

[allrighteousness]

Here’s 1 question for the A Dog: Are you saying that there are Christians who believe God and accepted Christ Jesus as their Lord and saviour and are devoted to live holy and righteous to God and Christ BUT if they were NOT predestined by God to be saved they will be lost and condemned?

[keepingup]

I really don't understand the scope of the term "apologetics". Can someone please explain what it means entirely?

[randallhatcher]

God gives them over or they willingly won't believe?

[GhostBearCommander]

I just trust the Bible.

2 Peter 3:9 says, in part, that God is “not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

Now, of course, not everyone will come to repentance. But this doesn’t mean God didn’t give them a chance to repent. It means that Jesus died for them and they refused His atonement.

[OkieAllDay]

If God ordains all things then He is the cause of every abortion, blasphemy, and abuse. Calvinism is a ghastly doctrine

[JohnQPublic]

I want to thank these two gentlemen for proving beyond all doubt that their Reformed Calvinist and Lutheran Gods are whimsical, impersonal, discriminatory, unjust, hateful, merciless monsters unworthy of worship. Regardless of all the excuse-making, fairy-tale storytelling, and concocted doctrinal double-speak, a simple understanding of the “Laws of Logic 101” dictates by definition, *THAT SINCE, * the Calvinist and Lutheran Gods are predestining, prior to Creation, a select group of people to be the elect *THEN* it is axiomatically true that the Calvinist and Lutheran Gods are by default predestining, and condemning, the non-chosen, non-predestined, non-elect to be barbecued in Hell for no known plausible reason; since the *ONLY* way the “Totally Depraved”, innocent, invincibly ignorant, non-elect can avoid being barbecued in Hell is to be chosen and predestined prior to Creation.