Javier Argues with the Camp [Part 1] / Hidden Dialogue /Red Dead Redemption 2

Javier goes around camp questioning their loyalty.

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[wbhurt]

“Oh, you wanna die?”

Charles is literally holding a hammer and has a tomahawk at his side..

[arandompersonlol]

When Charles said "Are there sides now?" it made me so sad...

[MrBlack]

You want to know a super secret dialogue? After Lenny dies and after you get back from Guarma, if you go to Valentine and get pissed drunk, Arthur will say "Lenny!..wait...nevermind" then he will take a deep breathe and sigh.

[STUNTSTHEREALONE]

Arthur: *Throws every possible insult at fellow camp member**
Arthur: A L L R I G H T D E N I L L C A T C H Y A L A T E R D E N

[RochRich.]

Bill was an idiot, but Javier was naïve. Javier is probably just as tragic a character as Dutch.

[Koskinen]

The actor that plays Javier said he feels Javier wouldn't have acted this way if red dead 2 came out first he thinks he would join Arthur's side

[maliciousnnutritious]

Javier was smart to walk away from Charles. I could almost sense a right hook coming in the next few seconds.

[freerondonumbaine]

Not gonna lie Javier has one of the best voice acting

[gogogoooooooooo]

Can we talk about how Charles, one of the kindest and gentlest characters in the game, was incredibly terrifying when Javier threatened him?

[yabigboiiii]

Javier: Too Loyal
Bill: Wants attention
Micah: Wants to be the leader
Dutch: *M O N E H*

[macdog]

"I made no choice"

"are there sides now?"

Charles, all humble and wise... didn't even flinch at Javier spitting near his feet

[finalbossmachinima]

"It's by staying together... that we live." Hosea, Lenny, Sean, and Kieran would all like a word with you.

[MrBlack]

Also there comes a point at Beaver Hollow where Javier and Bill start hating you out of nowhere. I hate Beaver Hallow it was the worst camp in the entire game. It was littered with bad energy because of the Murfrees that used it for their murder and torture camp. Also it was the place where the gang starts turning on each other and everyone is depressed. Horseshoe Overlook was by far the best because everyone was in great spirits and there were always parties there. Shady Belle is a strong second

[haunter]

Unlike Bill and Micha, Javier was truely loyal to Dutch out of heart

[michaelsnow]

Hot damn they fixed Javier's character a lot in this game. Antagonistic in the end but still a respectable man and a bro for most of the story.

[ladyofrillwater]

Javier felt like he owed everything to Dutch. He was young, he'd been betrayed before (heavily implied in ambient dialogue), and he genuinely believed in what Dutch preached. Everyone else was kind of clear-eyed about the whole "helping people and reclaiming the west" stuff, but Javier genuinely believed it. He was a revolutionary, he loved his country, loved his people, loved the gang. He tried to bring concerns to Dutch before (again, in ambient dialogue), and Dutch pulled the same gaslighting and psychological manipulation that he did on everyone else: don't question, if you do you're part of the problem, have faith, be strong, never doubt me.


I think Javier took that to heart, and when things started to get bad it became a crutch, a compulsion. And I think the reason he's so broken in RDR1 is because when he realized how Dutch used him, it broke him. He'd betrayed Arthur and John, betrayed everything he felt was right and good, for nothing.


It's completely unsurprising to me that Javier fall so far. He lost everything. He was as traumatized as the rest of them, and he doesn't even get the dignity of dying as himself.


Te quiero, Javier. Está mi hermano, ahora y siempre.

[HokageAjRulesTheWorld]

javier: *disrespects entire gang several times*
Arthur: anyways, I’ll catch you later

[spartanofwar]

I never picked up on this dialogue and i never played RDR1 so seeing this vid really shocked me as Javier seemed like a real bro until he betrayed Arthur and joined dutch

[The_Chef]

Considering the political state Mexico was in while Javier lived there he never developed a better nose for when revolutionaries are going bad? You really do have to pity him in a way.

[TJ-ferr]

Poor Javier, if only you could see dutch for what he truly was