Debating the Eucharist // Cameron Bertuzzi vs. Matt Fradd

Matt Fradd and I had an informal debate a couple years ago on the Eucharist that was released to our respective patrons. We talked and thought it was time to release it to the public. Enjoy!

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#Eucharist #Catholicism #Debate

[danielpascoe]

I'm grateful to Protestants for getting me back in Church after my life fell apart. However all research points to the Eucharist is the true body and blood of Christ. I was totally anti-Catholic at the time but the truth of it couldn't be denied. Now sharing in the Fullness of Christ in the Eucharist is the single most important part of my faith.

[sillysyriac]

When this debate first aired last year, I was convinced of Cameron’s view. . . Funny that I’m totally on the opposite side of this issue now!

[cactoidjim]

It's weird for God to be bread and wine, but then again, it's weird for God to be a Jewish carpenter.

[ratatoskr]

Honestly, if there was a purpose for Protestants, it would be to keep Catholics in check. I mean my two best friends who are Protestant, I have to thank for making me question, research and learn about my faith in what Youth Catechism had failed to do. I have them to thank for strengthening my faith in God's Church.

[jessestanley]

46 minutes in and I might end up Catholic by the end of this year

[nooneinparticular]

I love both of these guys and subscribe to both channels. I'm a Southern Baptist and came into this expecting to agree most with Cameron, but I found Matt's argument more compelling. Lots to think about here.

[Musingsofamother]

I’m a reformed Protestant who currently aligns most with the Presbyterian tradition. For the last 6 months or so Ive been looking into what Catholics believe. From their mouths instead of only people refuting them. I’ve got to say, it was not what I expected. There are things I’ve become convinced of that I never thought I would. The Eucharist for example is one. But I’ve got to say... I am frustrated. I don’t want to be catholic. I’ve had so many preconceived opinions about catholicism. God seems to be leading me in this direction and I feel myself digging in my heels. Pray for me, please. Thanks for the great video you two.

[groatswerth]

I was raised Evangelical to believe the metaphorical view. When I finally read John 6 without assuming that view, it was obvious that Jesus was being literal and repeatedly clarified himself. I found context is clear. Jesus said what he meant and meant what he said.

[Damian]

I’m Catholic. I understand the wrestle of doctrine. We are human we are going to wonder, doubt., question and debate
Looks the councils and debates throughout the Centuries. It took me years to settle in my soul what I believe to be true about the Catholic teaching of the Eucharist
I have respect for people in the Protestant tradition who have a zeal and love of God and seeking truth

[saoirseryan]

The eucharist *is* hard to understand. That doesn't mean it's not true though...

[Noel]

Thank you both for sharing this. Matt’s question about what more could Jesus have said was very compelling, especially paired with the interpretation of the early church.

[jonathansoko]

Matt won quite easily. Cameron's gotta start being honest really soon and finally come home.

[barelyprotestant]

About an hour and a half in.

Cameron, I have to ask this: when you claim your interpretation for the words, "It is the Spirit that gives Life, the flesh is of no avail", are you claiming that the literal Flesh of Jesus is not salvific, and therefore the Incarnation is not salvific? Is your argument that Jesus' Flesh is worthless? Because I don't see how your argument could be understood any other way...

[isaacjohnson]

I’m a non denominational Protestant, but Matt definitely won this “debate, ” in my opinion.

[deedee]

My husband is a covert so he had a hard time believing the teaching of Our Holy Catholic Church on transubstantiation. My husband says that when he received the Holy Eucharist, for the first time, as he swallowed he felt this intense beautiful warmth going down his throat. He felt this beautiful intense warmth igniting each intestine in his body. His heart was felt submerged into a warm peaceful place. He can’t describe. I believe it was Jesus telling my husband “I am”

[santosjohny]

Mary, the first Christian had the flesh and blood of Jesus residing within her. Would it not be fitting that God extended this grace to all Christians (to be able to have the flesh and blood of God reside in us as well)?

[lukeabbott]

I may have to convert to Catholicism now

[jperello]

This dialogue brings back a million crazy emotions out of me. I’m a Protestant that married a cradle catholic. She believed transubstantiation, but couldn’t explain why. So I went on a mission to prove her wrong and unfortunately started reading early church teachings and of course John 6. Now I’m Catholic and the Eucharist has literally changed my life in terms of removing a lot of sinful behaviors in my life. Either we are worshipping a piece of bread or we are worshipping Jesus!

[DoctorPepper]

Great Discussion guys. Matt's points are so spot-on and make such logical sense. Thanks for sharing!

[marlaemerson]

At 1:07:51 Cameron asks "How can the body be in two places at once?" My question to Cameron is "how can the Holy Spirit be with you and be with me, and be with millions of other people, all at the same time? My answer is "of course He can. And of course his body can be with many people, all at the same time." God is said to be both omnipresent, and omniscient. This is what people have believed for thousands of years.