Starship's Secret Tanker Problem & Why The Moon Is The Key To SpaceX's Mars Colony!

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0:00 Intro: In order to realize Elon Musk Mars city, is sending SpaceX Starship Mars mission directly from earth or using Moon-Mars cyclers more efficient?
1:50 As for the Moon vs Mars colonization debate, we should first gather experience by colonizing the moon before sending crewed SpaceX Starship Mars mission. A SpaceX moon base could easily be established with SpaceX Starship lunar lander.
3:05 It's not very economically efficient to conduct Starship refueling in earth orbit due to the larger quantity of fuel required to escape earth gravity and for a SpaceX Starship landing on Mars.
5:04 The fuel requirement for a spacecraft leaving the moon for Mars is about half as high as leaving from earth to Mars.
7:25 Hence it would be more efficient to first establish a moon base, then build Starship or Moon-Mars cyclers in moon orbit and launch all spacecraft from the Moon to Mars.
9:42 The most economical approach to Elon Musk's Mars colonization plan would be to simultaneously colonize the moon with lunar Starship and prepare Mars cyclers for trips between the moon and Mars, combined with direct Starship Mars flights.

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[zaguar]

I've always felt we needed to build Lunar infrastructure and habitations to prepare ourselves for venturing into the solar system. That said, I still think Elons' plan to send Starships to Mars asap is the right plan. Our window of opportunity may not remain open for long - there's a whole lot of angst building up on this world, and if it pops, our space-faring future will be negated.

[tonespeaks]

Wow, this is one of the best Starship shows ever!!!

[treystinson]

I have a problem with your point;
The whole point of the fuelers is to be rapidly reusable, and its not like they're gonna launch 1000 Starships at the same time. Those 6 refuelers could be remedied by reusing one 6 times. SpaceX has it under control, and have planned everything out and will change it along the way, if necessary.

[MAPLIFEInstitute-MAPSHOW]

The best step is no step. This quote from Elon has been helping me simplify my approach in business. So I think stopping on the moon for a small gain and huge increase in complexity might be the less attractive choice for SpaceX.

[rodrigoconceicao]

The best approach is that where i can go to mars still in my lifetime!!!

[digichech]

"I said it wrong again" I can feel the frustration 😂😂 keep it up guys great content as always 👍👍

[joz]

The moon can be our sandbox. We can play and learn what to do and help is not far away. Once we have the skills we can they go full solar. I agree with other posters that we will need a different propulsion method then chemical rockets to make Mars possible. Great video, please keep up the good work.

[danielkyte]

Excellent Concept of building refueling stations on Mars Moons.

[airshipguys]

I would love to see a relatively straightforward exploratory human mission to Mars SOON. I'm afraid that these complicated multi step systems will get bogged down and may never be completed.
I love your content!
Cheers from Juneau Alaska,
Greg Chaney

[TheNeosika]

7:14 Earth to mars i think , thks for the post !

[ConcealedCourier]

I like the idea of Phobos/Deimos first because we need to have a pathfinder mission to establish a Mars Beacon.. so Boeing doesn't get lost.

[XarraXonna]

I was at the IAC back in 2017 and even then, when it was BFR, Elon said it would take 5 to 6 tankers to fill each Starship fully. He never hid or covered that up. It just doesn't get mentioned a lot, but has NEVER been kept 'secret'.

[GreenPartyHat]

I used to be a person who said we should skip the Moon and go right to Mars. But I now think we should practice building habitats on the Moon first.

[notesaccount]

Really appreciate the work you guys are doing!

[goukux]

I remember calculus. After college I used it maybe three times in a 30 year engineering career.

[cyborgbob]

I don't think you guys understand the main fuel problem with Starship.(or at least forgot it) Hydrogen is the main element in the moon, which, yes, can be converted into rocket fuel, or Hydrolox. Problem is, starship needs METHANE to make METHALOX for fuel, which is found in MARS, not the Moon; and shipping it there would be just as complicated as orbital refuelling. Otherwise, great video!

[ejciicollins]

Yeah that's a awesome concept that makes a lot of sense having fueling stations on the Moon and Mars Moons would easy solve the fueling and refueling problems 🤔

[mistereat__notcrow]

The big problem with moon colonization is that you can not make Methane from the raw materials on the moon. You need CO2 in order to make methane through the Sabatier process, which is not present on the moon. So to use the moon as a re-fueling station would require taking the fuel there in the first place, which cancels the DeltaV benefit. However, Mars cyclers seems a decent idea, though I dont think they would save much DeltaV either, because Starship would have to catch them (using fuel), then decelerate again (using fuel). The cyclers would just make the ride more comfortable and less deadly. Angry Astronaut has mentioned going to the Deimos or Phobos first as well, and I assume the lower DeltaV comes from the lower gravity, but I wonder if Starship would be able to land there, since its huge mass is made possible through the idea of aerobraking... Meaning if the moons of mars do not have any atmosphere, would Starship be able to carry enough fuel to slow down and land on them?

[TimothyAlbiez-UnhingedSpace]

Cycler spacecraft make so much sense. I hope after Starship begins operations full-scale that a spin-gravity enabled cycler becomes a priority. As you mentioned it is great from a economic/sustainability point of view. Excellent video guys :)

[thomasagelidakis]

The problem with this 8 points is that a colony on Mars would then take decades to realise because every step could need more time than expected. Travelling directly to Mars and Moon and later building an infrastructure to link the two is the best way in my opinion.
Good Videos, keep on going :)