How Many Spotify Streams Do You Need to Make Minimum Wage?

I did the math, this is how many streams you would need to make the same amount as you would from a minimum wage job.

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My purpose for this video was to create some helpful goals for artists and producers who are just starting out. I really wish that I had a video like this back in 2019 when I tried doing music full time. I never really did the math behind how many beats I had to sell or views I needed to get or any other of the ways to make money online as a music producer.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from doing music, I just think it's good to know how much you would really need to do. It is possible to make money online as a music producer but it takes a long time to get going. I wouldn't expect that you can make a full time income out of all of this within a few months. It's really hard to make money online fast because most of the time you'll need to develop a brand with a following to sell something like sample packs.

What I didn't really touch on in this video is a realistic split between streams, YouTube, beats, and sample packs. Right now, I'm only working on YouTube and sample packs so I can't give an accurate estimate of what that breakdown would be. My split between the two is 85% coming from my Shopify website for sample packs and 15% coming from Google Adsense (YouTube). If you're a music producer who does all 4 of these and makes a part-time or full-time income from them, I'd love to hear your splits!

Being able to make money online as a music producer is awesome, especially because you can do it from home and have it run in the background as a passive income. For example, Shopify stores like the one I sell my sample packs on can be set up within an hour or so. Ever since then, all I've had to do is shout it out in my videos and Shopify takes care of the rest of it. When I wanted to sell my first pack, I spent about a week putting it all together, everything from creating the site to making the pack. That being said, I spent the last 10 years or so producing music and making my own presets and samples so I had plenty of experience going into it. I also had spent over a year building this YouTube channel to the point where it had over 2000 subscribers when I launched my first pack. If you don't have sound design skills or a following that would be interested in buying a sample pack, I would recommend developing both before you start trying to sell.

I also made this video for myself. I'm not making enough to be full-time on music yet so I will be using these goals too. Hopefully I can look back on this video and share an updated version when that happens.

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[kidzorro]

Thanks for an honest take on this. Too many videos tend to focus on success stories rather than the average artist.
In the current state of the music, aspiring to become a 'content creator' may be more realistic than solely aiming to be a musician.

[MadelnMachines]

It amazes me how the music market is still completely saturated when things are this unsustainable, and it's surprising that people continue to bother trying to make money from it.

[michaeltaylor]

C@ 9:59
Thanks again for doing this I thought I would have to either pay somebody to to learn I haven't seen it actually broken down like you took the time to do really appreciate your time and knowledge keep doing your thing you have another subscriber and supporter really great job on this

[tiaisirradiated]

The packs you made I've bought and used in like every single project basically in some way since, particularly the Cute and Stuff pack, the sounds are just so good
Can't wait for a new preset pack or even a drumkit would be cool!

[wethegamers]

So what a lot of people don't understand, is that is just the number of SPOTIFY streams. Now let's include apple, itunes, youtube, amazon prime, any sort of merch. concerts/shows, any label pick up, doing features. It is not easy to support yourself as an artist, but it is also not this bottle necked. There are MANY outlets to support yourself. If you have 100, 000 monthly listeners and averaging 500, 000 streams a month. Yes that is less than minimum wage, but say you do two features a month where they pay you $500 each. Now that is $1, 000 on top of minimum wage which is not awful. Obviously with 100, 000 monthly listeners, you would likely charge more than $500. I know two artists at this range who both charge between $1, 000-1, 500 so realistically. Could be making $2, 000 - $3, 000 if artists are paying for it.

At the end of the day, it genuinely comes down to how valuable your music and brand is than anything else

[believeinyourself]

This is what we call real content, which helps needy person ❤

[WhatDoesEvilMean]

I’m actually confused by the YouTube vs Spotify. YouTube pays more than Spotify per view.

[michaeltaylor]

C@ 2:49
Thank you for your time and knowledge really appreciate that

[DrawbridgeJadeRerun]

This video was great, good insight on how everything works. Definitely going to check out the book. Keep up the good work man!

[nicholasn.]

These numbers are better than I expected. So someone like Yeat has made $11.3 million *after* tax and *after* revenue splits. And he makes 11.5 bands a day. 1/10th of that would be a godsend. That’s before shows which bring in stupid cash (literal cash no one needs to know about). You could do 10-20 shows a year 100k-300k each. And merch, probably another 500k

Again 1/10th of that I am up more than anyone anywhere. The median NFL player makes 1/3 of that after tax. And then you could take all that money and invest it in companies and realestate.

Damn so Destroy Lonely is $2.3 mill + 3 bands a day + $500k/year from shows. And he’s 22. I would be sooo cool with a third of even just that. At 22-23. That’s not even crazy well known atp. Ken is $3.5 mil + 6 bands a day + prolly 750k for shows.

6 bands a day is just crazy. I could buy my car everyday. And labels are stupid they don’t make any financial sense. They take 80% of the revenue and do work you could do yourself or with a team to do. Booking venues is not complicated, “promoting music” what does that even mean in 2024, mixing and mastering genuinely isn’t that important or hard enough where I couldn’t learn. What do they do other than provide “security”, I don’t understand. And music isn’t supposed to be secure, it’s music lmao.

Make good songs, upload to TikTok, have strong branding, and tour. 1 person could learn and do all that. And hire out a team as necessary. To make the financial goals I want to meet, I’d need to be 2 or 3 times the artist. And that seems ways harder than doing the work yourself.

On top of that, I was so confused when I heard destroy lonely just now bought a hellcat as his *first* car. That’s a cheap ass car for being Destroy Lonely. His label took everything. His fan base streams his music crazy and he doesn’t see any of that.

[lovinbeats]

Great video!
I'm curious about the live shows tho, 2000 peopple seems like a lot for a show to break even, is that really so?
i've seen tons of artist touring overseas for 500-1000 crowds, are they all unprofitable? Seems strange to me.

[d]

there's a japanese producer (muship) thats also selling eggs (yes the chicken ones) on his website. never be afraid to branch out a bit

[roccoelliot]

Everybody is being so negative in these comments it's crazy. Having that mindset will get you nowhere in life. Yall are shook that it takes 500, 000 streams a month to make minimum wage but you're forgetting the world has 8.5 BILLION people. Amassing 500k streams a month could literally just be 1 viral video on tiktok, YouTube, Facebook etc... put time into your craft and into your content and people will start paying attention. Stay positive. Yall got this

[ilysm-]

these videos are so consistent and quality sheeesh

[altermoremusic]

Дякую, мені потрібно було це почути 😊👍

[noelkinz]

How much for 196, 000 plays on my song 10, 000 coming from apple music and the rest from Spotify the majority like 65% coming from Brazil by ad supporters

[CountD]

You forgot a "many" in the video title

[bobbyb]

moral of the story: no reason to even try :D

[blakemosses]

Ok so after watching this thank u btw very eye opening. I have come to the conclusion that the numbers dont add up mason when u look at ur math then ur channel or most music channels for that matter noone is getting even close to those numbers on any of their accounts on other platforms. So how are ppl like u or like music is win etc. making enough money to live off of.