What If Japan Embraced DEMOCRACY in the 1930s?

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Join me on a captivating journey into an alternate world where Japan remained a democratic nation in the 1930s and 1940s. In this thought-provoking video, we explore the fascinating what-if scenario of the Japanese Army not taking over, and the profound implications it would have had on World War II, the Cold War, Korea, Taiwan, and China. Imagine a Japan that maintained its democratic institutions, fostering a different approach to foreign policy, alliances, and regional dynamics. We'll dive into the potential consequences of this altered historical narrative, examining how it could have reshaped the outcomes of major global events. From the shifting balance of power in the Pacific to the intricacies of diplomatic relations, we'll analyze the ripple effects that reverberate throughout history. Don't miss out on this eye-opening exploration of a Japan untouched by military rule and the cascading impact it has on subsequent historical events. Like, comment, and subscribe for more captivating 'What If' scenarios and alternate history content.

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Okay so the Soviets still win this WW2 but I hope you forgive me😜

possiblehistory
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While the issue of Taiwan would be a thorn in Chinese-Japanese relations, i think post Korean Independence and Taiwan integration there is a non zero chance that Japan and China would be the France and Germany of some sort of East Asian Union. Many of the Nationalist leaders were educated in Japan and both have the same goal of resisting western and communist influence and with no WW2 related war crimes Chinese-Japanese relations would be at least marginally better than in OTL.

MrGilang
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I think this is the first time I've heard about democracy in Japan before the end of WWII, was under the false impression that the WWII Japan started to become a thing shortly after opening up to the world, didn't know there was such a period in between.

saifors
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I am a military coup and I can confirm that this indeed is what would have happened

rmsthunder
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You forgot the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923. That was one of the main factors that led the Japanese military to take over easily.

deniswood
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Sweden was at the end of the war about to attack Germany to liberate Denmark and Norway to stop them from falling into Soviet hands but the war ended literally a few days before the invasion.

So it’s likely that Denmark and Norway would have had time to be liberated by Sweden as it took until -45 for Sweden to rebuild its military capacity and with this war taking longer they should be able to eventually go through with it.

Ea-pbtu
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The Philippines would become independent even earlier because the Americans set up a commonwealth there and promised them independence after 15 years. That actually got delayed due to the Japanese invasion.

kuroazrem
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12:00 the USA was planning on letting the Philippines have self rule in 1944 prior to the outbreak of World War II, the United States saw the Philippines as more of a headache than an asset, and just wanted several naval bases.

amk
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What if everything went perfect for Japan? Would love to see it as a sorta continuation lf the imujin wars video. Possibly with centuries having Korea be a fully Japanese territory, it would be interesting to see the 2nd world war if there is a way they could get somthing out of it.

almostanarchybro
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and to add Chiang Kai shek was very much sympathetic to Germany. I can see KMT China welcoming a lot of German refugees with them developing the country. and its military to match the Soviets and to help in the civil war which the KMT will win. and yes while Chiang Kai Shek did not like the west, he hated the communists more. So while Chiang can be a troublesome ally to the Japanese and Americans I think he still welcomes their financial and military aid. Chiang ends up playing off the Japanese and Americans against each other while confronting the Soviets.

johnwalsh
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The video is just as great as the thumbnail.You make the most greatest alternate history content on Youtube, man.
Really excited and curious to see how the Pakistan video will turn out.

nazirbhat
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He never answered the anime question in the thumbnail lol

But most likely it would exist as early Japanese animation was already beginning to take off in the 1920s and 30s. Without WW2 or the Military in power, anime might even come about earlier due to a lack of censorship or animation being made solely for propaganda purposes.

DavionLoyalist
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You truly deserve over a million subscribere man. You're among my favorites for a reason.

What if Napoleón III won the franco-prussian war?

danielsantiagourtado
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Anime would just be unrecognizable with how the Japanese imperial state variably focuses on their sectors of national ways of life, but it sure is inevitable

shinsenshogun
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No coup=No Oppenheimer which means No Oppenheimer=No Barbie. Truly the darkest timeline...

leogazebo
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What if everything went perfect for Imperial Austria next!

bones
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Interwar althist still feels kinda underrated imo.

edit: also this is EXACTLY what an alternate history video should be. It covers a kinda niche topic, good quality video that sneaks in an otl lesson on the situation. Amazing.

Gameinger
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It wasn't the 'old elites' who had a hatred of the West. It the field-grade officers, fellas in their late thirties to early fifties, in the late 1920s and early 1930s and younger officers. They admired the USSR's powerful central authority (and the large military it was building but not the ideology) and later Germany's. They despised capitalism, democracy, personal liberties, and individualism. Once the UK and the US had been the most desired posting for Japan's military attaches, but it shifted to USSR and Germany.

In the military was the phenomenon of _gekokujo_, domination of a senior by a junior, i.e. insubordination, that rarely was punished.

Old fellas like Marshal-Admiral Viscount Kato Tomosaburo (and later prime minister) were those who admired the West. He led the Japanese delegation to the Washington Naval Conference and was determined to reach an agreement because he knew an arms race would be economically ruinous for Japan. He died of cancer and his rival Kato Kanji (no relation) was able to purge the IJN of his supporters.

Hideki Tojo (44) and his Mokuyo-kai (Thursday Society) cohort were in their forties when they began to plan the military take over in 1928. In addition to its leader, Teiichi Suzuki (40) and Tojo, the group included Tetsuzan Nagata (44), Yasuji Okamura (44), Kanji Ishihara (39), and Hiroshi Nemoto (37). The discussion was summarised by Tojo: 'The primary goal of army preparations is for war with the Soviet Union. This requires as our first goal complete political control of Manchuria. It is necessary to make defensive preparations for war with the United States in case it intervenes in our war with the Russians. We do not have to make any preparations for war with China. China is important only as a place to acquire raw materials.' (The raw materials China could provide was coal [coking coal, especially], iron ore, tungsten, and tung oil.) In Jan 1928, Ishihara, who would mastermind the Manchurian Incident, told a _Mokuyo-kai_ meeting about his 'Final World War Theory' in which a final war would be fought between Japan and the US. This group and the _Futaba-kai_ (Double Leaf Society) merged to form a new association of Army officers known as the Isseki-kai (One Evening Society) faction. In June 1928, faction member Daisaku Komoto (45) engineered the assassination of Zhang. In October of the same year, as Ishihara left for Manchuria to serve as a staff officer for operations of the Kwantung Army, he declared: 'You will see [Japan] seize the whole of Manchuria without fail while I am there.' Three years later, on 18 September 1931, Ishiwara and fellow Isseki-kai member Seishiro Itagaki (43) blew up their own railroad in Manchuria, blamed it on the Chinese, and used the incident as a pretext to bring all of Manchuria under Japanese control. In both cases, senior IJA commanders and the civilian leaders in Tokyo were kept out of the loop. Subordinate officers in the Isseki-kai, that is, staff officers who made plans for and otherwise served the commanders, carried out aggressive military actions on their own that began their nation’s road to World War II.

Same deal with the assassinations of political and military leaders and attempted coups. All planned and executed by middle-aged and younger officers. For example the May 15 Incident in 1932. was perpetrated by officers in their late twenties.

gagamba
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What if Japan sided with the Allies in WWII?

danielsantiagourtado
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4:41
thats what i adore about your videos

creativity

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