DUNE PART TWO gave me Whiplash

Dune Part Two 4DX may owe me damages - here are my findings, review, and thoughts on the movie!

TIMESTAMPS
05:25 - IMAX 1.43:1
06:49 - Characters/Performances/Set Up
11:33 - 4DX Ride of Doom
16:41 - The Questionable Copy Airdropped to my Phone
17:47 - That Theater that hasn't Changed since the 90s
19:05 - Spoilers

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[ela]

jessica was such a fun character in these movies because she was SO badass and cool in the first movie and then you watch the second and it's just a slow dawning horror as you realize she is, effectively, an outer space toxic boy mom 💀

[vadalia]

Jessica's unborn baby is an Abomination because she has access to all the memories of her female ancestors but lacks any sort of mental defense against their influence. Not only is she untrained but she's also had no time or chance to form any of her own sense of self & identity, being a literal fetus. Imagine someone who, say, has had telepathic abilities since they were born- being constantly bombarded by all the thoughts of all the adults around them would stifle and deeply warp their ability to become their own person, even within their own mind. Add to that the powers that come with said awakening and you have a very dangerous individual on your hands.

[lloroshastar]

I think the scene when Stilgar says 'The Madhi is too humble to say He is the Madhi' and implies this is further proof he is the Mahdi got so many laughs in part because of how reminiscent it is of a similar line in Monty Python: The Life of Brian.

[robinvik]

Paul: **does anything**
Stilgar: "!!"
Stilgar: "Lisan al-Gaib!"

[fusionaddict]

Something that needs to be noted is that Paul’s visions are not always possible futures. Some of them are metaphorical. The vision where Paul was killed by Jamis is also tied to the voice that tells him he must die “for the Kwisatz Haderach to rise.” But the voice also tells him that when one takes a life, they also take their own. So Paul Atreides, when he kills Jamis, metaphorically dies in order for Muad’Dib, the Lisan Al-Gaib, the Mahdi, the Kwisatz Haderach to be born.

And no, Alia does not age at an accelerated rate. She is born with preternatural knowledge and is able to speak and act as an adult even as a toddler, which the other Fremen find highly disturbing. The reason she is considered an abomination is that she has access to her “Other Memory” but lacks the years of practice, training, and discipline needed to control it. That means aspects of her genetic memory could potentially influence her directly, almost a form of possession.

[Visforelvenshireling]

That abrupt switch in Paul from "never going south" to "let's get this jihad started" in the book was because when Feyd attacked the seitch Paul and Chani's first born baby son was in that seitch. Feyd had murdered Pauls baby. Chani was devistated and Paul snapped. Here they sped up the timeline so there wasn't time for Paul and Chani to have a kid. Instead DV connected the change in Paul entirely to him drinking worm bile. Loved hearing your thoughts!!!

[chimpinaneckbrace]

A Fremen sitting in a 4DX seat: “Thank you for the gift of your moisture.”

[xenbia]

Alia (Paul's yet to be born sister) ages physically at a normal rate, she's just born with the widsom of countless Reverend Mothers and therefore doesn't behave as normal children do and speaks like an adult, which creeps out people around her. In the book, she's ~2 years old when Paul becomes emperor, and then ~15 years goes by between Dune and Dune Messiah, so if they make a part 3, she should be ~16 years old - that's fine in movie logic even if the actor is older. I mean, Paul is supposed to be 15 when Dune starts...

Also, remember when Duke Leto asked Jessica if she would protect Paul, not as a mother, but as Bene Gesserit in Part 1? Well, now we know why she dodged the question, because no, she wouldn't. After taking the water of life, she becomes obsessed with making Paul the Kwisatz Haderach and doesn't much care for the humanity he might lose in the process or what toll the Holy War might take on him - his well-being isn't a concern to her anymore. She's pretty deternined to prove herself right and being on the "right" side, but as Reverend Mother Mohiam eloquently retorts "There is no side.".

[DistinctlyMeFilms]

The moment when Irulan and Chani just locked eyes and stared at each other sent chills down my spine because you just UNDERSTOOD. It was so good. My favourite scene.

[marshmallsy]

Speaking as someone whose only seen the movies (I plan on reading the books soon!), I love what they did to Chani's character. I bet it was a big shock to readers, but for me it was the best possible way to portray her and to demonstrate to the audience that what Paul is doing is NOT a good thing. I love too that Paul says he's seen that Chani will eventually forgive him, because I feel like it gives an extra layer of tragedy to them. It almost felt like he was seeing so far into the future, and so certain of this path, that he's less affected by the present downfall of their relationship and how heartbroken and angry she is now.

[acenull]

FEYD DID LOOK HORNY AF WHEN PAUL KILLED HIS UNCLE 😂😂😂 I loved that part so much 😂

[jaketheberge]

I saw it in Imax. Since you seem to want to read the books I have a bit of advise, Dune Messiah is imo required reading after you read The first book. Messiah really shows just how badly things end up do too the events of Paul's Jihad. It will also show how tragic Paul is as a character. The movie made seem like he drinks his own Koolaid but its more a case of being trapped with only the least horrible options left to him. Hell Frank Herbert only wrote Messiah because some people didn't get the point, "I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: "May be dangerous to your health."

[Xinixie]

One of the readings of the abrupt changes in Paul is that it is meant to feel abrupt so we are less likely to be on board with his changes in character and perspective. His character shifts need to be jarring to start pulling the audience away from being on his side all the time and start questioning him instead. It's effective, but earlier than that really happens in the book series.

[MarcoBayod_MB]

Jokes are fun, but people keep missing the point, Chani didn't leave because of Irulan, she left the moment everyone kneeled, because she saw how he was using them, one thing is to liberate Arrakis, another is to take all the Fremen to war outworld. Loved the change from book Chani, you could even said this makes obsolete Dune Messiah, but I still believe Villeneuve should have shown better the genocide Paul is about to bring to the empire, Oppenheimer has practically the same ending, when Pauls says "send them to paradise" is like Oppenheimer after talking with Einstein, showing the arms race and the destruction of Earth, that was the perfect moment to show the horrors

[xenbia]

Paul's decision to take the water of life in movie makes a little more sense if you know a few things from the books. Spice gives some prescience to anyone who consumes it, and it's tenfold for Paul, HOWEVER the more you are exposed to large amounts of the spice Melange, the more immune/resistant you become to its prescience effects, and because spice is literally in EVERYTHING the Fremen make, Paul's prescience is diminishing the longer he spends time with them. When sietch Tabr is attacked by Feyd-Rautha, Paul mentions he never saw it coming, he had no vision, saw no timeline where this happened, and he feels horrendously guilty because he now feels a responsibilty toward the Fremen, having become a leading figure to them. Had he the full power of the Kwisatz Haderach, he could have seen it and prevent it. His reluctance to accept this role caused thousands to die. This is where the shift occurs. Good intentions leading to disaster, because absolute power corrupts absolutely. Having now experienced every life of every man and woman through time, he has seen pure evil and pure good both, but as result, has become completely desentisized to it all. With significantly less humanity in the way, he's far less concern with human life and more with what he can gain for himself, cold calculated concrete results, i.e. his personnal vengeance against the Harkonnen and the Emperor. He's still not thrilled with the idea of the Holy War, but he sorta gives up on stoping it. In Dune Messiah, it quickly becomes apparent that fanatism can take a life of its own and can no longer be controlled, not by him nor by anyone else. Even if he dies, he'll just become a martyr and the fanatism will live on in his name.

[EdWiley]

I’m surprised so many people thought Paul’s downfall after taking the Water of Life was “too sudden”. The guy had a bad trip on super potent spice and had his brain turned inside out Dr.Manhattan style, of course the change was sudden!

[tmvandr]

one of my favorite details on Giedi Prime was the cloaks of the Bene Gesserit turning from black to white when they step outside into the black sun. so subtle and SO FUCKING COOL

[MisaoM]

I could imagine that in the third movie, somehow Chani realizes that she is pregnant, and her having that baby is the reason her paths will cross with Paul's again - otherwise I cannot imagine what would make them meet up again, since Chani seems thoroughly done with it all. Such a cool last shot.

[mggardiner]

They sped up the timeline so some of the emotional beats got lost and they had to change relationships, but I also 100% believe part of that was due to Villeneuve not wanting to have to deal with a Renesme type character/effects

[Juan-piun]

You inspired me. I want to watch Dune Part 2 on my iPod Nano 3rd gen with a cracked screen from when I was 11.