How-To LEGALLY ride a TALARIA + SURRON // UK LAW LOOPHOLE?

Today we dive in depth about the various different ways to use your surron in the UK legally. There are many different options to riding legally and staying out of trouble, first off - a road legal version of the bike you own is a great bet, it means you can use if for commuting care free assuming you have the correct documentation and license. Another way you can legally ride your bike is to use it on private land, stay away from government or council owned land, this can lead to prosecution as well as seized bike.

I also briefly touch on some tips on how to blend in and stand out less when you are on trails or in the woods. Drawing as little attention as possible to yourself is key.

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[CyberDopamine]

As an American, the trespassing laws are so crazy to hear. If you go and ride in private property, you’re gonna hear bullets whiz past you it’s kind of awesome

[littledevilchris]

They don’t bother me as long as they don’t leave litter and trash a place, I’m a mtb rider too.
There’s some that use the trails in one of the forests I ride, they are alright, I did stuff like that when I was younger. They slow down when I’m out with the kid so they don’t make me feel like he is in danger.

I’m more worried about the people riding them without helmets as I’ve had mates die on bikes and the thought of someone smashing skull into a tree with no protection no matter who they are worries me for their family and friends.

Good vid by the way. Also if your ever in Northants way they are trying to get an old max track opened up for them which I also think looks class!

[tacticooldennis]

For those riding in the US, we do jump from streets onto MTB trails but its important to not overstay your welcome, just keep moving and take different trails in and out. If you keep ripping in front of the same group, they will get out their phones and have evidence against you. mostly I have found just being courteous and friendly goes a long way on sharing trails. some cities also are enforcing their own rules outside of the state so be aware before you ride there.

[BoozySZN]

I ride like the laws don't exist. It's the risk I take. It's why I mostly watch US content due to the fact I enjoy the street stuff over the offroad (stick to the law) content. But I do watch you and mattfrancis 👌

[hjl]

Uk laws make no sense!!
At nearly 50 always had bikes common sense tells me:
If you share a public space you should travel at a similar speed as other users.. simple and safer.
Footpath walking= speed.
Street= speed limit.
Pedal cyclist doing 5mph round blind corners on a 60mph road is as dangerous as 40mph on a footpath.
I'm waiting for my chat with PC plod on my talaria before the ok then catch me if you can situation happens caused by the daft uk rule book!!
Great vids 👌

[steviesouthall]

So helpful! Love videos like this 👏🏼👏🏼

[NAYF]

Good vid mate. Uk law crazy. If u let gravity take u downhill on a push bike you can achieve over 25mph on a cycle path so why not allowed assistance to 25 on flat or uphill?

[gb]

Best idea is to get a road legal version and insurance and remove the number plate.

[EthanEarnshaw-]

Big up stingy love the informational video

[zeadux]

So if I got a Talaria X3 road legal when I'm 16, I can do my CBT, and ride it at 28mph max speed, but can I cut the brown wire (to increase max speed to 45 or whatever the max is) when I am 17 (I would also get my full driving licence then as well) still with my CBT or do I need another licence above the CBT. Pretty sure cutting the wire would class it as 125cc. Also would I have to switch insurance if I were to cut the wire at 17? Looking at purchasing possibly. Btw great vid.

[Flooftoys]

Love your videos! So informative and clear. Keep it up 👍🏼

[Destro]

Section 59 warning and seizure, at the time of the stop one goes on the rider and one goes on the bike simultaneously. This means if the bike is stopped again and issued one and there is a different rider, the bike is seized. Alternatively if the rider of the bike goes out in a different vehicle, including their own car, the warning sticks with them and should they find themselves stopped again the car will be seized. Warnings last for 12 months.

[ogasi]

just go ride - leave no litter, don't tear up a farmers field and be polite if you see people, you will be ok - sessions in an area for too long is asking for trouble - use a forest etc but get in and out in a set period, ensure you know several entry/exit routes - tbh there are that many e-bikes in mtb areas now that nobody will bat an eyelid if you are on the trails

[jhynton]

I got a bosche cx line e bike and derestricted it but only goes torque limiter of 28mph. I upgraded the battery but still tiny battery. Best thing is its a custom sleeper using hope tec breaks, crank arm & hubs etc the police never stop me.

[E-Ryder]

Interesting video, keep up the good work

[skynetdefence]

To clarify, the police can issue a section 59 warning to a rider on any land. Public or Private... This lasts for 12 months, not 6... Part of the wording is contrary to sec.3 RTA, or section.34 RTA (any land not consisting of a road or highway - i.e woodland and farmers fields) an in a manner which has or is 'likely' to cause alarm, harassment or 'annoyance'... So if anybody phones the police because they find it annoying... Or if the police have previously had complaints about the issues there, then that meets the 'likely' to cause element... Just be sure to get the land owners permission, and the landowners details so the police can contact them and confirm you have permission. If you have confirmed permission from the landowner, then don't worry you should be fine - providing there are no public rights of way going through the area. 👍

[michaelcole]

Hey stingy, love your content! How are you liking the swing arm extension? And where did you get it from?! Thanks

[Chungleas]

So when you're challenged on private land and leave, you have to ride on public roads right?

[djacroama]

"You coming out riding mate?"
"Cant, bikes got an ASBO"

[vchain]

Great video, very informative, what camera do you use ?