Nutrition Facts Ketogenic Diet - Dr. Michael Greger Debunked by PhD

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Nutrition Facts Ketogenic Diet - Dr. Michael Greger Debunked by PhD

Nutrition Facts Keto Diet Series Debunked by Kevin Hall PhD. Dr. Michael Greger recent ketogenic diet videos relied heavily on studies done in part by Kevin Hall PhD nutrition researcher. Kevin Hall responded to dr. Greger ketogenic diet videos on Twitter.

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Hit 👍 + Feel free to post the best non-industry funded studies showing the health benefits of animal protein

RedPillVegan
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We don't need balance, especially when the other side is full of nothing but lies garbage and it doesn't help anyone. There are reasons to lean on it as a crutch for "TEMPORARY" medical Reasons. Outside of epileptic seizures I know of no reason why someone should try to long-term maintain a low carbohydrate diet.

It would be interesting to see a study that was not entirely ripped apart to get a certain result. But I have never seen anything like that.

phatvegan
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Weight loss is such a vague term. The goal is to lose excess body fat. Losing water, glycogen stores & lean muscle tissue is not the issue.

Kazuma-des
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My understanding is after 2 years on this keto diet in the Verta study. People with all kinds of health problems. In the second year, they had Serious health problems.

Correct me if I'm wrong. BUT if you do correct me, prove it.

phatvegan
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I have never heard of any well researched reason why animal protein would be good for overall health. That's just something people used to think because of a decades old misunderstanding that has been corrected. The human body systems were built on plants throughout evolution, so why would all of a sudden animal anything be good for us? We don't need "balance", we need truth.

carinaekstrom
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I don’t think anybody, including Dr. Greger, has ever said that animal protein, in and of it’s self, wasn’t good for you. What he and so many others are saying is that plant protein is just as good if not better, and doesn’t carry with it the potential for high blood pressure, diabetes, and blocked arteries that can lead to stroke, coronary incidences, and ED.

TheBerkeleyBeauty
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Weight loss on a low carb diet (high fat or high protein) has long-term negative effects. Keto (high fat >70%) gave me gout and insulin resistance due to lipoprotein overload

FeelingAwesome
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But the whole ketogenic thing makes my addiction to eating dead bodies look all sciencey and normal.

Wearephuct-O
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Wait a minute....so the study observed ‘obese’ individuals and then put them through a low carbohydrate diet for the trial. If these people were obese to start off I am pretty sure they were eating processed, man made carbs and empty calories which got them to be obese in the first place. Most obese people are eating really poor and nutrient deficient foods with very little natural fiber. The low carb trial they put them on was that like only reducing their carb intake the were consuming before? And what compliance did these obese people stick to and were whole plant based carbohydrates introduced in their diet? It’s very difficult to get someone who is obese to dramatically shift their dietary lifestyle from junk carbs to natural plant based carbohydrates.

dharmaram
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How good animal protein is for you? The benefits of animal protein? Cmon man🤦‍♂️. Greger has forever acknowledged the “benefits” contained in animal protein, and countered that risks far outweigh any of them. Obviously you know this, and any video he would make on the subject would say the same thing.

ericmeiselbach
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To be honest all this calls into question is weight loss, and keto causes you to lose a lot of water mass. So what if keto is better for weight loss? There clearly isn’t a significant difference as vegans tend to have ideal BMI. Either way, the ethical argument to not eat animal protein far outweighs any reasoning that you should. Even if the research showed it gave you a handful of extra years (which it doesn’t by a long shot) that is still less important than the life of another being.

mattrichardson
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Animal proteins are the only missing nutrients in the vegan diet because every vegan is protein deficient. I read that once somewhere.

naturalhulkster
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Just a general comment. Don't fats (lipids) have, gram for gram, approx. 3 times the caloric energy of carbohydrates? If so, aren't we arguing apples and oranges here? If one eats in grams the same number of grams of, on the one hand, fat, and on the other hand, carbohydrates, then doesn't, all else being equal (energy expenditure), it stand to reason that one would lose more weight by cutting out the fat?

roberthorner
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@Red Pill Vegan -- Thanks for another excellent video. Incisive, balanced, well argued.
There is an epistemological issue when attempting to understand human nutrition. As a discipline following scientific processes, nutrition science takes biochemical processes as the core knowledge to obtain. It generally ignores any consideration extraneous to biology (with some exceptions: psychology and environment).

To find out what is the right diet for our species, if there is a universal one, we need to look deeper. When we look deeper, the case for acknowledging the evolutionary 'rights' of other species comes out strongly. It is not intelligent to ignore this, if we really want to find the best answer.

Benighted.
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Weird. I have seen some presentations from Hall and read some of his research studies. It almost seems like Hall is trolling.

brucepugh
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Lol Frank tufano is still delusional....
"We should collaborate....I do a bit of debunking vegans..."
🤣😂😅😆

fullTimeVeganinOhio
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I think I gotta rewatch this for understanding lol. I'm not sure what side you're on. 🤣🥦

chandraheidel
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Or could it be that Kevin Hall has been bombarded with negativity and propaganda from the keto community to the point that he just feels a need to tone down the results of his research?

carinaekstrom
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Contrary to what you are saying here I think perhaps many folks come to vegan after having tried keto. I did. Vegan is an extreme diet compared with most of the options out there and though I’m vegan 1.5yrs I don’t feel it’s necessary for health. I’m sure health benefits can be obtained with a 10% animal based diet as well. We’ve seen that in the amazon natives with lowest rate of atherosclerosis- they eat small amount of low fat river fish and lots of starchy tubers. They’re also quite active.

Low fat is more important than vegan in my opinion. I’ve tested myself and I saw zero change in my total and ldl cholesterol from a high meat and egg and cheese diet to high fat/oil and fried processed food vegan diet my first 8mos (transitional period). As soon as I cut out fried and went to 10%ish fat vegan diet and dropped LDL 40pts in 4 monthsand got total cholesterol to 150. That’s a statin-like result and exercise was lower if anything. Of course when we take cancer and other risks into account vegan becomes even more appealing. I’m never going back and black and white works for me. Keto is unsustainable, feels terrible and low carb is a disaster that causes one to adapt their tastebuds to more and more fat/savory foods and then when carbs creep back in the calories go through the roof. For heart disease my gut feeling is low fat (low processed) is most important. Probably someone could eat skim milk veggies fruits nonfat yogurt and super lean fish and be just fine in terms of cholesterol- but they’d be taking on cancer and other risks.

kbkesq
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I debunked Dr. Greger, because he doesn't get enough Choline... :)

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