Propulsion Breakthrough!? New Electric Drive Defies Physics

Co-founder Charles Buhler of Exodus Propulsion Technologies has revealed a breakthrough electric drive that seems to work without any propellent. If real, it could change the future of space travel.

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[ShawnBean]

By definition, nothing that works can "break physics". The most it can do is break our current understanding of physics. That said, this asymetric-capacitor phenomenon certainly warrants further investigation. At the very least, it sounds like it's going to expand and refine our understanding of physics.

[marsbase]

Super awesome! I know the title is just catcy, but I would like to emphasize, nothing defies the laws of physics, only our current understanding until we do understand it

[egioch]

Ionic wind effect should be pretty easy to detect, right? The air would be blowing. Also, if the device is capable of producing more thrust than its weight (which is claimed) then it is also extremely easy to detect. So, my question is, where is the video of the levitating product?

[BostonDeadHead]

Dr Buhler presented this at APEC in January. If you don't know APEC it's a free online conference that happens once a month. I highly recommend it. It's the Alternative Propulsion Engineering conference apec.

[SteveSiegelin]

We've been building these at home for years. It's just that we finally have a team of researchers with the proper equipment able to do the proper experiments now. A lot of us that have built these are limited in the amount of voltage and amperage we're willing to work with. I myself don't go above 30, 000 volts. That's just because that's the biggest transformer I have. I made that from an old neon sign transformer that I modified and boosted. We've been able to build these for almost a decade and a half now the problem is that the power supply is not small enough to fit in the craft. You can't say it's a propellant list system because it's using the air around it as repellent and it's using the electricity as the oxidizer. This means that you still have to generate power and you have to have that power flow like fuel, energy flows like water, so that your system will be able to support itself off the ground. That's the problem right now. We've been able to fly these for almost 15 years on cables but we could never get it to fly without being tethered.

[ts]

Thanks for being a real person, with real sources. new fan here.

[Eugenezipprich]

Finding a propulsion system that isn't a reaction engine is the best way to open space to practical lengths of time. I think they should send a small scale of the system to space to see if it works.

[mrbrucewayne]

I built a lifter with my daughter for her school science project and one thing not mentioned here is the corona effect that accompanies the lifting effect as well as the fact that the force was higher at different distances between the plates which was not always closer to the

[planetsec]

IVO's quantum drive test failed because the cubesat it was attached to failed according to them so they will try again next year I think, and Exodus have their own in-space testing planned iirc

[Sensorium]

Andrew Aurigema - Propellantless Drive Engineering Test 4k - Exodus 2024

The video title above gives detailed analysis of the work that is being done, whether you believe it's accurate or not. It's an in depth discussion with the engineer who is working with the lead researcher on the project. Their primary goal is to create something to keep satellites correctly oriented and positioned.

[walterrwrush]

Stop messing about just make one put in space and save time

[alllove]

It isn't ionic wind nor is it "breaking physics". It is DEFINITELY teaching us new/ overlooked physics and when we truly hone the devices' shape to maximize thrust we will be able to have safe, flying/floating vehicles. I really look forward to the day when we can take a floating cruise over land, sea, or even air! I wonder if it would be a long, cigar shaped object? Thanks for the video. The hexagonal craft with those thicker metal bars than the "lifters" made of aluminum foil was encouraging. The only other video on YouTube that I have seen that mentioned the lift being generated without ionic wind propulsion used a cut out proportionately heavy pie plate, lifting with enough force to overcome it's own weight with such speed that it really showed the triangle shape isn't necessary. It was round like a flying saucer. Well.. it was a pie plate so..
The power source would be much lighter and be able to be housed onboard if they used a wimshurst style generator. A watch battery could power the motor that would need to be used to turn the wheels. We have better capacitors than leyden jars so using them would be prudent. ❤ thanks for stoking the hope for futuristic vehicles that our grandparents would be expecting us to use by now. ❤

[Steven-pj]

I am endlessly fascinated in breakthrough research, however, when we come to the known variables to which we are limited, I would always seek evidence. Are NASA going to trial this in orbit or further? My considerable respect for the good professor suggests we need to rattle the cage of science now.

[robknob]

Thank you so much for stating your sources. Subscribed!

[TorQueMoD]

Sounds cool! Will be interesting to see where this goes in the future. Great video too! Liked and subbed.

[michaelshortland]

Townsend himself said that he tested his device in an oil bath to negate the electronic wind hypotheses, and he still got thrust. He also did not know how his device produced thrust, but he experimented to magnify the effect as much as he could.He did eventually test his device in a vacuum chamber and said it worked even better. I do not know how his device works, but saying that it does break the laws of physics might just mean that we are not yet aware of just how it works or what it might be interacting with to produce thrust. I did see a paper published by two British physicists about the state of gravity research in the 1950's and they did mention Townsend's work and said that his device "Discs" ( Thats what they said ) would work in space. Just imagine if it is true and that the Americans have advanced space vehicles that they have kept secret for over 70 years??? wow. Why would they keep it secret? probably because it would enable easy access to space and the solar system and they did not want nations like North Korea, China or Iran to gain easy access to space, how could they monitor them, they could do anything, so they sat on the research so that if anyone wanted to get into space they had to go the very expensive and dangerous rocket path.

[Cythil]

There is another issue that is often overlooked with these propellentless drives. And that is electromagnetic radiation can produce thrust. If you turn on an electric torch (aka flashlight) it will push you in space... But only very slightly. And this effect can even be observed with infrared radiation (aka heat radiation). With the minute levels of thrust these devices put out this effect can actually be what actually is providing thrust. So you need to take that in to amount and do better than that. Else you may as well just used a high efficiency electric torch drive (or something similar)

[KAKA-qhql]

I heard about an old theory from my physics professor that matter can be converted into electromagnetic waves and sent to another place and then the electromagnetic wave can be reshaped and translated back to its original state.

[Doubledownbeats]

Is it possible that a electrostaic drive causes clumped together ions to act like a ion wind affect? Is this a good speculative question to ask?

[michaelccopelandsr]

🎶"We've only just begun..."🎶