My ONE BIG problem with Honkai: Star Rail...

Silverwolf, Seele, Sparkle, Today we talk about Powercreep, Team Comps and all my problems with the current state of Honkai: Star Rail

0:00 - Intro
1:00 - Powercreep
5:45 - Team Compositions
10:15 - im struggling...

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[Kekvin]

A bit of a yap video because my idea jar is running on empty right now. Will def have a better video next time 😅

[verse]

Are we getting meta takes from a guy who used Dhil and himeko in the same team

[kitkatkk]

Thoughts:

Every name mispronunciation makes me take psychic damage

"Acheron is a better version of Kafka" No???? They fulfil very different roles in a team. Acheron is a pure DPS, Kafka is a DoT carry. DoT itself has been losing steam lately but Kafka is definitely *not* just worse Acheron. By that logic, Black Swan is just worse Feixiao.

"No character before 1.5 is good" Topaz is 1.4. Tingyun is 1.0. Fu Xuan is 1.3.

"These are the best team comps I could come up with" Genuinely: SKILL ISSUE. Ratio over Blade in that bottom comp is like. The classic IP3 team. Hell, swap Lingsha and Aventurine, and that's like. two completely normal comps (except Himeko :p)

[IanCF]

me clearing all endgame content with DHIL since his 1st rerun: 🗿

[Ara-xust]

I think it's a matter of how much investment you put into your characters...I managed to get all stars on all game modes without Acheron, Firefly, Feixiao, Yunli...I didn't wish for any of them, for break I only have Boothill and Ruan Mei. I only pull for characters that I like, idc about meta...I builds my characters the best I can so I can use them...I'm f2p since the beginning of the game so it's possible to get all stars

As you said you're extremely casual, so it may be a building issue and team comps...I did the last moc with Himeko with break effect and it was really fun, it's only a matter of getting creative too (in my case because I choose to not pull for some characters)

Also I'm not a hardcore player, but also because I don't wish for thaaaat many characters I can focus more on the ones I like...I play Genshin too and i manage my account the same way

[thenexus]

you absolutely dont need Feixiao, acheron or firefly to beat endgame content. Here are my teams for the clear of MOC 12

first side: Rappa, Hmc, Gallagher, Silverwolf (all E0S0 other than gallagher and HMC who are both E6)

Second side: Yunli, sparkle, aventurine (aventurine put right next to yunli) and tingyun. i do not have houhou or Ruan mei the only 5* lightcone i have is Yunlis signature. The problem that you have Kekvin is that you maybe read the base kit but not the FULL kit of the characters. The yunli team i used you can actually replace with a clara team which should do a bit worse but still usable. Good luck!

(Cleared with 24 cycles left)

[sparrrkles_]

This video was great! Don’t worry bout ur idea jar btw. Just continue making content you want whenever. We’ll be here waiting lol

[Uzairafridi]

Buddy wait till the next update and then the true kingyuan mains would rise

[notepic]

As a f2p with only the DOT and a high investment mono quantum team moc 12 is impossible for me😭

[kitkatkk]

I was a Seele main from 1.0 all the way to Robin's release, but she just became *so* hard to use... I miss playing Seele. (sidenote her name is pronounced sort of like "ZEE-la", not "SELL-ay")

[Noam_]

Acheron and Kafka are 2 diffrent characters, one is crit dps and the other is dot dps

[katetag]

As someone who doesn't do superbreak and is an avid dot enjoyer, yeah i get stuck on this end game content alot, this double break thing is a nightmare for me

I also agree that i have team comps and all i do is swap out characters like Dhil and argenti as the team base is that same, I just hope for a bit more vartion in meta away from superbreak

But im not super stressed about endgame content, I am pretty casual

I know you didnt mention this but an issue I do have is the main story quests are super long, it goes on for so long that I forget what was happening. As much fun as change pov is its to much, like the lingsha pov couldve been fully cut out.

In gneral the story I think peaked in jherilo 6, and kafka bit but im biased to kafka

[tastea]

I would like to see a game mode where you can only use 1 element, suddenly bailu, gepard or even Natasha will be top tier because they are the only sustain for that element. It also forces the player to make comps of 4 and 5 star which creates a lot of variety. It would truly be a win win situation because people would still be incentivised to pull for the newest character to clear that content with as it will be BiS for that element.

[roseevans]

Not gonna lie, I felt called out as a DHIL and Blade main lol.
I understand your viewpoint, but I truly believe your situation is in part due to being casual (not that that's a bad thing!). I enjoy farming for relics to get just that bit more of speed, crit. damage, etc. So in that regard, I think that's why I find it fun to keep using my two mains and improving them. Because I want to keep doing the end content with the characters I love. Star rail is my favorite hoyo game, because it not only has an interesting story, but great characters I main and a gameplay I enjoy (turn based for the win lol). And lastly, to speak a little on powercreep and old characters not "aging" well, I think I find that hoyo does a decent job releasing supports to keep old characters competitive. When RM released, she gave a great boost to my Blade team and that made me happy. Same thing with Sparkle, great boost for DHIL. I think it just comes down to being patient when you main an older character. Newer content will no longer be catered for your main, but that doesn't mean they will never come back to the spotlight (be it reruns or a new bis support). Anyways, just my personal thoughts! Do what's best for you and just keep having fun!

[weirdyguy]

I feel like if you wanna beat endgame content its a matter of actually building your characters and teams correctly

[mikac]

I almost cleared this moc with himeko super break and clara that had lvl 7 talent and without the last trace, all i needed to clear was 5% of hoolays health which would be solved with traces maxed

[lilian]

I still use Blade dhil and Seele and clear endgame easily with them
On previous MoC my e0s1 did 2 cycle on side 1
I litteraly cleared Aventurine with Argenti (e0s0)
On current MoC I can clear with Blade and dhil ( e0s1 Blade and e0s0 dhil )
I can clear Pure Fiction with Seele and do 40k
In AS I clear with Himeko crit and dhil
Yes this characters are not as good as they used to be but they are really not unusable

[StarlightBunny]

I agree with you about stagnant team comps, its especially egregious with break teams to the point that I'm completely bored of playing Firefly. I wish the characters were a bit more balanced and had more varied synergies with one another so it would feel better to switch up your team comps. I hope they find a way to balance the game retrospectively because I miss playing characters like Blade and actually feeling powerful.

[aidenbarello]

The content lull definitely makes sense because we’re right before the next region/planet coming out, and it’s the same type of lull that happens during this period in genshin. I think it’s smart that they ended up staggering those two periods in the year so that the lull’s don’t happen at the same time for each game

[muhammadfarisaulia]

While with enough investment any character can be good, how the endgame is designed heavily favors new characters. You can spend hours grinding for the best relics to use Blade to win against Hoolay and spend more hours making the best support for Blade, or you can curb stomp him with Feixiao with decent relics, you even get a free support for her in the form of Hunt March. You can spend weeks, maybe months, making several teams to tackle MoC, or you can use Acheron on one side and Firefly on the other for every stage and boom, you got your stellar jades. Can you have a break team without Ruan Mei? Yes. But you're not gonna get nearly the same result without Ruan Mei, and look, the latest MoC has a mechanic where if you break the enemy's weakness bar you get a charge and at the end of a cycle you just get free damage.

I don't see this trend being healthy in the long run, if I put significant effort into making the best Jingliu I can just for a shiny new character to outclass my Jingliu in every way right from the start then I'm not gonna feel good playing this game. All my time and effort is wasted. I can't get back all the stellar jades I spent, all the hours I spent grinding for relics, and all of this for what? Just to have the newest endgame that heavily favors the new characters.