LOB WEDGE vs SAND WEDGE Which One do you Really Need

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Do you need a 60° Wedge or a Sand Wedge? With only 14 clubs to choose from you need to make sure you have all the right tools so you can shoot your best score. Here I put them to the test and I will only keep one in my bag. #thisvsthat

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I like to play where almost all of my shots a full shots, hence I keep a 60, 56, GP, PW in my bag. I have taken out the 4 & 5 iron. Because I'm 76 I depend on getting up and down around the green more than a much longer golfer would. This approach has kept me at an eleven Hcp.

gowithgid
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Back in the day, the prevailing wisdom was to use a 56º and learn to use it a variety of ways... this is what I'm still doing. And while my short game is trash, it's nice to just know it was all me that screwed up versus second guessing if I played the right wedge around the green. That's my logic anyway.

Tognar
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This is the best youtube channel to learn about golf or have your questions answered. I just bought a 52, 56, and 60 degree wedge and I never use the 60. I got on youtube to confirm I wasn't crazy and now I'm switching to a 54 and 58, or a 52 and 58.

nerdalert
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I have a 60 and a 64. Love them both. Partial wedges and chips around super fast greens where I need the ball to stop fast. I can't do it with the less lofted wedges. Also for full shots my 56 goes 80 yards, my 60 goes 60 yards and my 64 goes 40 yards. Plus special shots like in the bunker where you are close to the wall and need to get the ball up fast the 64 is incredible.

JackRainfield
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Ughhhh!!! I finally broke down and put a 60 in my bag and now I'm searching for videos on the appropriate time to use it and this is the 1st video I watch. FYI, This would be club #12 in my bag so I still got room. 60, 56, PW, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 23 degree hybrid, 3 wood, driver and putter. I am intentionally trying to stay under 14. I was going with 9 clubs for a bit and slowly that number is rising but still "slowly" so I can take note of what I actually "need" on the course. Right now I feel I have enough distance and shot style to fill the gaps in distances so I'm focusing on giving myself another option around the green.

icyredpeople
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I use my 50 for full & 3/4 swings, my 54 for everything, & my 58 for when I short side myself and greenside bunkers

brucehubbell
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First of all: that is a sick backing track, Matt. Love it.
I'm a 52º and 56º guy and always have been. But I also like to get the ball on the ground and run it. But 40-80 yards pitches, the 52º is a real all-rounder for me. 10º of bounce so you can play it square, open it up, good for most conditions. And I tend to chip with lower-lofted clubs: 9-iron, PW, and Approach wedge, which is 48º, I think. Arccos tells me up and down % for the short clubs are:

8 iron = 33%
9 iron = 46%
PW = 53%
AW = 45%
52º = 29%
56º = 30%

So it looks like I don't chip with 52 or 56 very often, and when I do...it doesn't go well. So I need to practice there, apparently.

I see so many players now automatically grab their 60º wedge when they miss a green - no matter how close or far back they are, and no matter what the lie is. And then they try to flop everything right at the pin. Even if they're on the fringe. Sure, if you have to go over something and land it soft, open it up and hit it higher. But there's a big difference between a lofted chip and a flop shot. A flop shot should really only be a last resort. It means something has gone very badly wrong. Hardly anybody putts from off the green or uses a 9-iron. I'm not sure why. But a large skill set is more or less disappearing from American golf.

danielcohen
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I've fought this battle for yrs. My solution. Weaken your PW to 47.5-degrees (Tiger uses 49 degrees). Strengthen your 54 to 52.5. The KEY is to have a 54/55/56 multi-grind (heel&toe relief wedge) strengthened (this allows you to open it for bunker & chipping). Then you want a similar grind 56 mid bounce wedge, that you bend to 58 or a 58 wedge (again mid bounce multi-grind heel&toe relief wedge - also can use in bunker). Your 3-wedge system is now 47.5, 52.5, 58 (thus 5, 5.5 degree spacing) - then Add 21 or 16-degree Hybrid

wallstreetoneil
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I roll with a PW, 52, 56, 60. For me 60 is pretty situational, 56 is mostly sand-60 yards and around the greens/60+ yard shot I'll bump my 52. Love the vid brotha 😎👍⛳

TrueNorthGolf
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54 and 58. Only use 58 for sand and very short chip shots. Finding myself using the 54 more and more.

stevefrady
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I live in Southern California now for the last 4 years.
When I started to replace my equipment in 2017, I decided I would add a 46° Vokey SM6 to be my PW, as I was replacing my older 50°, 54°, and 58° Vokey Wedges.
Along with the 46° and 50° SM6s, I chose a 54° V Grind with 10° Bounce and a "low bounce" (06°) 58° K Grind.
I will use the 58° up to 80-85 yards.
I prefer the 58° for tighter grass lies and firmer Bunkers.
I will use the 54° for "teed up" lies, deeper rough, and softer Bunkers.
For Around the Green I vary club choice based on Lie, Distance to Landing Spot, and Amount of Distance from Landing Spot to Hole, so sometimes 6 Iron through 58°, which is 8 Clubs.

apaulmcdonough
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I use a 55 SW and a 60 LW, I only use the 60 on greenside rough and bunkers. The 55 I use almost everywhere- deck, rough, sand, tight, hardpan, soft, full shot, partial, chip. I think the SW loft and wider sole on mine has allowed for more versatility, and I think it really is easier for more players to manage. You can miss hit the SW a little and sometimes still get an ok result compared to miss hitting a 60. For me there was never a need to use the LW in similar situations vs the SW. BUT where the 60's specialty comes in around the greens from those troubled lies it's a spectacular performing club, and I had some incredible sand shots and even a hole-out or two from the rough with the 60. If you can handle it, bag the 60 but don't get cute with it. Know your game, your capabilities and limitations on what kind of shots you can play.

jmu
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I agree for me, 60* is hardly used. I go PW, 50*, 56*.

HabsFan
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Thank you for another great video! I love how he explains everything in such simple terms that even me, a beginner with lots to learn, can understand it.

Coachandrewjames
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Due to a shoulder injury I'm not particularly long off the tee. I have a 72 degree wedge that, regardless of how hard you hit it, maxes out at about 45 yards. I really enjoy it to attack pins on the short side of the bunker.

michaelrogers
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My 3 iron, 60, and putter are my most used clubs in my bag. I think I’d give up my putter before I gave up my 60 lol.

jakehoover
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54 and a Cleveland smart sole S (58), easy peasy club from all locations..

andersjson
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I rarely ever like to use my 60. The only thing is that the bunkers at my home course tend to get hard packed in the summer and my 60 has less bounce than my other wedges and outperforms in that scenario. I use my 56 a great deal more but don’t really have a big gap to fill so the 60 rides along

Indycrr
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Went out for 36 holes on the local Par 3 course to try this out. Definite improvement with my 56 degree as the morning went on, but I think I used it to the detriment of my PW and 8 iron for some chip shots. My lob wedge stayed in the bag all morning. A learning experience for sure. Thanks.

christopherhemming
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I carry my clubs most of the time, I think I'll keep my 56 and be done with it (my set is Dr/3H/5i, 7i-GW and and a 56). That's 9 clubs. Once I get really good with those, maybe I'll start adding clubs back in, but I think this is how I'm going to start my season and see what happens. Gapping isn't a huge issue for me given the courses I play, I find more than enough overlap with my longer clubs to get to a point where I have my pick of which scoring club I want to use a full swing on, this is why I started taking clubs out and realized I could play just the same, if not better with fewer clubs.

jonq