The Duality of the Separatist Movement - Why (Most) of them Didn't Deserve the Hate

The battle droids did nothing wrong tho

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🎬Video Credits:
Narrators - Cam
Editor - Giorgi
Writers - Sean

Chapters

0:00 Intro
1:01 The Separatist Council
4:18 Heroes on Both Sides
7:12 The Powers That Be
10:31 Outro

[zacharyweaver]

I'd love to seem some lore master tackle the Alternate timeline idea of Palpatine deciding to have the CIS win the Clone wars and form the Empire.

[benderthepirate]

People don’t understand just how ruthless and cruel Dooku was. He led billions of people under the idea of freedom with no intention of his side winning the war. The opposite in fact. He was purposefully leading them to their deaths.

[inquisitorgarza]

Both the Confederacy and the Republic were both good and evil, as war tends to blend both sides of any conflict into either monsters or heroes depending as on how any of their citizens view them.

[indianajones]

Grievous: smashes the heads off his own battle droids
Crosshair: Executes his own troopers
Vader: Choked his own officers
I think there’s a pattern here… just can’t figure it out 🤔

[rexlumontad]

0:07 Don't forget Clone Wars 2003 where the creator of Samurai Jack made awesome fight scenes such as General Grievous vs several Jedi within the ruins of a Republic ship for example.

[supercellodude]

I realize back in Legends there were relatively stable Sith Empires. But with the Galactic Empire that Sidious built lasting around 20 years, is there something about the Sith ideology (perhaps from Bane, or from the Empire's ideology specifically) that makes it a poor fit for a civilization that spans at least half of the galaxy?

[OnlyRoke]

It's the beauty of the Prequels. We root against the "Rebels", because the Rebels are led by some monsters, while their grievances are completely legit. We root for the Empire in the Prequels, because it is not yet an outwardly fascist state. It still has that nice sheen of "They're the good guys, because the Jedi are nice and Rex, Padmé and some Clones are morally good." that eventually falls off, when the Empire is truly formed. Really goes to show how we, as an audience, can be swayed to root for one group and despise the other group, just based on the figureheads of the fight. The Separatists had legit reasons to want their independence, while the Republic was pretty oppressive. The Clone Wars show even shows us so often how our heroes arrive at some neutral planet and they leave it war-torn.

[Azzie]

Grievous was goaded into service with the seps, I feel bad for him... being enslaved then leading his planet to freedom and waging a successful counter campaign against the invading race only for the Jedi to take the others side, after dooku sabotaged his transport he wiped the memories of grievous and basically made him a sith pawn, I believe his life was a true tragedy

[inductivegrunt]

The way I see it is that the council, their underlings, the corporates, and the higher ups in the military were even, the common separatists were good and just wanted freedom. Atleast most were, there would be bad examples of the common separatists.

[tristankawatsuma]

I always argue that the Republic army was more moral than the Separatist army, but to be fair that is more due to Jedi leadership. Without the Jedi, the clone troopers would at the end of the war still be the same as they were at the start with fewer exceptions. If the Jedi led the Separatist forces, they probably would humanize the battle droids like they did with the clones. Both Republic and Separatist armies were filled with officers who always wanted to win a battle in pretty terrible ways without caring for civilian casualties. The Separatist officers were allowed by Dooku and the Separatist Council to run rampant while the Republic officers were kept on a leash by the Jedi Order. So when the latter officers became Imperials and the Jedi Order was wiped out, they probably were happy to now have permission to no longer hold back. They probably adopted and improved Separatist tactics that they respected and always wanted to try seeing them as more effective in military operations.

[MoaRider]

Personally, I think Star Wars would of been a far more interesting setting if Palpatines plan worked too well and left the entire galaxy shattered and Balkanized. The Mandalorians revert to their warmongering ways, the Kaminoans establish an empire of their own built on the backs of clones, the Umbarans become a rising technological powerhouse, Sidious forms the Empire with the Republic core worlds, the Jedi survive Order 66 but are forced into a diaspora and hundreds of other of other species and worlds are left to fend for themselves. Though I wonder how a divided galaxy would fare against the Yuuzhan Vong.

[savagedarksider]

Shu Mai:W-We were promised A R-Reward! A H-H-Handsome reward !
Darth Vader:I am your reward ! Don't you find me handsome ?

[tnntaronewsnetwork]

I would love a video based on the Czerka Corporation. Since they existed since KOTOR all the way to the Galactic Empire

[JAR]

Every Clone Wars Episode Ever:
Sympathetic Separatist: I and my people have legitimate grievances with the Republic! Help us, Count Dooku!
Count Dooku: I am sending you Badguy McEvil-Person, he will take charge of all military assets on your planet.
Ugly Shark/Spider Lookin MF: Count Dooku pays me in baby meat!
Sympathetic Separatist: *surprised Pikachu face, dies 3/4s of the way through the story arc*

[macwade]

I hope one day we can get an animated series similar to the Clone Wars but from the CIS pov!

[reggierattler]

I followed with the Separatist as a kid. I never knew why, but I had a strong soft spot for them. When I got older, I came to understand why. The people of the outer rim worlds that made up the Separatist just wanted equality, true representation, and protection from harm. Even though the Separatist were run by some evil people, those people offered them everything they didn't have in the Republic. It made me ask myself which side would I chose in this situation (and had no idea about how evil Dooku and the council were) I would join the Separatist.

[Anedoje]

I would disagree on Grievous I mean he had a literal reason to hate the republic even if they messed his memories up, his people were being exterminated when they finally rose up and dealt with those killing them the republic was paid off to punish the original victims

[ontasbulent]

*kamino gets bombarded and destroyed by Venators
Clones: We lost our home
The separatists: carma is a bitch

[bonno]

In the end both the Republic and the Confederacy sucked because of Palpatine and the Sith, and everyone suffered because of it, as the opening crawl of RotS states; There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.

[marshalllatta]

The separatist used to be part of the Republic Padma was friends with a lot of them