Tesla FSD 12.4.1 Lacks Confidence

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00:00 Intro
00:50 PIA
02:00 The Drive
23:33 Summary
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Really wish my experience with 12.4.1 was as good as others I see 😕

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AIDRIVR
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"Main character syndrome" - love it! 🤣

philmuljana
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Dont even own a tesla, nor do I live in the states, but your channel is so relaxing to just sit back, relax and learn all these developments in self driving technologies. keep it up!

calculator
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You are by far my favorite FSD reviewer — I like the fact that you use voiceovers and focus on interactions that demonstrate the abilities and limitations of the software. I also enjoy that you must live near me — at one point in this video you drive right by my son’s apartment 😂

Electric_Dave
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1 video from you is more valuable to shareholders than the 100th „no intervention“ drive from other channels.
The system can do a lot. But we have to focus on what’s still missing.

tlow
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The stop sign at about 13 minutes there was a blob on the screen. It’s like the car was visualizing something that wasn’t there.

gregm
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I love the way you put the visualizations on the screen. Love your videos too, very informative and entertaining, even for someone who doesn't have FSD

Cynlixal
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Lots of good FSD reviewers out here but yours are the ones I look forward to the most. Great work!

GuyFromGeorgia
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I have a theory for what happened at 8:35 where the path planner wanted to go, but the car stayed still.

The new city streets model is supposedly trained with video+controls and outputs control directly, but we also know that they're still running the traditional object detection models (traffic lights) and some of the logic for determining which lane you're in (for the auto-canceling turn signals and to determine which light is yours).

It's possible that they're still using the results of the older systems to add an extra layer of safety on top of the new "end to end" model.

If that's the case, then the tentacle we're seeing is what the city streets model wants to do, and the behavior of it not moving seems like a hard-coded rule, a rule that's got higher priority than the city streets model does.

If anyone remembers when Elon live streamed a v12 drive, one of the things v12 did was run a red light for no reason. I don't know about anyone else, but if I were an autopilot engineer, and I had a bunch of proven software (v11) that could help me ship v12 guaranteeing it wouldn't run a red light, I'd just gatekeep v12's ability to drive unless both v11 and v12 agreed about whether the light was green.

joecarioti
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Thanks! Not much but I’ll do my best to tip each of your efforts. Please keep it up!

GuyFromGeorgia
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Amazing channel, I like the attention to detail like the sound effects, just makes the video so much more entertaining!

birdpump
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You are doing a great job on testing bro keep it up

nevyinnincymedia
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Thank you so much for your honesty. It'd the only honest review I've seen of fsd. The rest I've seen have been tesla fan boys on perfect routs, claiming that fsd is virtually perfect. They have tunnel vision but you are able to keep a level head. Well done and thanks so much.

joshuajorgensen
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12:50 shadows seem to affect 12.3.6. That seemed similar and even showed something on the screen as being in front of you.

aaronb
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12:45 it’s probably thinking there is something in the road as it’s visualizing a blob in the intersection

temjahn
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Welcome to Walnut Creek. This drive was facinating to watch! I was thinking for that unseen left turn light at Broadway/Ygnacio was the use of a Programmed visibility (PV) head on the mast arm. It did see the PV light on the thru movement though. The upright on the left had regular LED bulbs but it didnt want to recognize those either. So maybe the issue was it not knowing you were in a dedicated left turn lane.

matthewr
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I love your videos, there are the best. And there are the only ones I trust.
It’s funny how you describe how humans drives like you came from another planet and you try to explain to your friends how strange humans are

shai
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ai drivr out here risking his drivers license for our entertainment

Also i live near walnut creek and its really funny to get some commentary on the drivers around here lol

kvickart
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8:57 remember it running the light on the first preview we saw of v12? My guess is that at intersections they still have the old stoplight code running and the car isn’t allowed to move unless the old stoplight code says it can and v12 neural net wants to move.

DaCubeKing
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I had a similar issue where a car drove out into the right-turn only lane from a gas station, blocking my way. FSD waited a few seconds and then instead of turning right at the light, up ahead, it turned into the gas station to navigate around the car... just as I would have done!! However, it ended up going the wrong away around the station and instead ended up in front of the car wash! I laughed and took over. 😛

RolandGustafsson