Arguments For Atheism Tier List

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- VIDEO NOTES

Joe Schmid is a PhD student in philosophy at Princeton University. He graduated with a B.A. in philosophy from Purdue University in 2022. He has published articles in metaphysics, philosophy of religion, and philosophy of time, and the author of books including "Existential Inertia and Classical Theistic Proofs".

Today, we construct a tier list of arguments for atheism, covering:

The Problem of Evil
Divine Hiddenness
Religious Confusion
The Stone Paradox
The Scale of the Universe
The Evil God Challenge
The Improvability Argument
The Argument from Material Causality
The Modal Argument From Evil

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- TIMESTAMPS

Introduction - 0:00
Problem of Evil - 03:34
Divine Hiddenness - 19:43
Religious Confusion - 42:37
Stone Paradox - 57:17
Universe Big - 01:08:28
Evil God - 01:22:07
Improvability Argument - 01:50:15
Material Causality - 02:06:19
Modal Argument from Evil - 02:22:17

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A special thanks to my top-tier supporters on Patreon:

Tom Rindell
James Younger, DDS

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The S-rank is the highest grade in the Japanese school system; it comes from "shū" ("excellent", maybe?) and it is normally represented in English as "superb". It became popular in the West via scoring systems on Japanese arcade games, e.g. it's the highest performance you can get on Dance Dance Revolution

Matheuzers
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Skim read the notification and thought it said “Arguments For Antisemitism Tier List” and got VERY confused 😂

sunset_odyssey
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I love the dynamic of a laid back Brit and a high energy American in a deep philosophical discussion.

captainyossarian
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I love this guy's vocabulary and freedom of thought. The way his choice of words match up with his ideas and how simply he can explain concepts makes it clear he doesn't just say things he doesn't really understand just to sound smart. Seems like a very intellectually honest guy as well. Definitely gonna check out his channel.

MrSkme
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Oh man… a 2 and a half hour video notification at 1:30am 💀I’m cooked

SebTheNoob
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"1 more video before bed"

the video: 12 hours long

Hakaimono
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i love it when alex’s videos are longer than the first hunger games movie

Ana-hcmz
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Hiddeness is S tier for sure. If you've never heard of a god, your first questions would be "Where is he? Show it to me. Where's your proof?"

wjpperry
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Is it weird to admit that these Cosmic x Majesty videos are a sort of comfort video for me? While I'm sure Alex enjoys talking to his other guests, his conversations with Joe feel much closer to a friend banter as opposed to a debate or an interview. There's an aspect of informality here that I really appreciate.

misterproject
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Okay, but what do you mean by "arguments" and "for" and "atheism" and "tier list?." And it better not have anything to do with drugs or else I'm out of here

thetheatreguy
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I think the argument from the scale of the universe is typically a response to the fine tuning argument. Since clearly the majority of the observable universe is hostile to life as we know it, not fine tuned to support it.

JesseDriftwood
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I think you're missing the real point of the "universe big" argument. The point is to get you to question whether your belief in a God who built a world for humans is based on a cognitive bias. Suppose you were isolated tribe of a couple thousand who didn't know about the rest of the world, and you have a whole belief system that depends on a God who created the world for your isolated tribe. When you are made aware of the rest of the world, suddenly it seems less plausible that everything was made for you. You gradually realize that you only thought it was for you because you didn't know about everyone else. Similarly, as people become more aware of the scale of the universe, of other potential worlds with life, of other belief systems about God, of the number of animals in the world, the idea that everything was for you and your community's personal conception of God becomes less and less plausible. I grew up in a Jewish community. This might be mixing some arguments together, bu their idea that there is a God who has a special relationship with the Jewish people is embraced by 0.0001% of human beings who all happen to be Jews. Of course you should question whether that's based on a cognitive bias.

Discoursivist
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its strange to me when people claim if god revealed himself, it would abolish free will. The original story of satan proclaims he was a whole angel, who knew god, was 2nd to god, was as close to god as you can get. and still chose to go against god. So if god revealed itself, the true sinners, those truly evil, will continue to be evil despite seeing god. the people who truly "just want to sin" will. and those who were non resistant non believers would be saved. simple.

KitanaTulip
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The Problem of Evil is not an argument for Atheism, only an argument against specific religions that promote an omnibenevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent deity (usually monotheistic religions). It cannot be used against Hinduism or Buddhism for example, and surely any argument that cannot address the 3rd and 4th most popular religions in the world cannot be considered a good argument for Atheism.

Perhaps it could possibly be ranked as an S tier argument against Christianity, Islam, and similar (debatable), but as an argument for Atheism I don't understand how it could possibly be ranked S. I would put it in D, if I was being generous.

jamesreynolds
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I actually cant believe this came out the exact microsecond that i finished rewatching the arguments for god video. LIKE THE EXACT SECOND I FINISHED IT THIS JUST POPPED UP. God is real. Final verdict

alessandrovimercati
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This was a great episode, thanks Joe and Alex!

CapturingChristianity
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F Tier shoudl be: "I can't see God, therefore no God"

okon
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Love it when joes the on the channel it like watching alex talk to his American doppleganger

Lukey
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I loved the first one and am very excited for this part 2!

MindShift-Brandon
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This was a fun one. More of this, please! Also, it's nice to see you laugh/smile more often, Alex.

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