Did the Disciples REALLY Die as Martyrs?

How confident can we be that the apostles really gave their lives for their beliefs? Can we truly call them martyrs? Listen as Frank takes on these tough questions by sharing info from our friend Sean McDowell's doctoral dissertation and highlighting the available evidence suggesting their TRUE fate.

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#Martyrs #Christianity #Apologetics

[tinaf]

God bless you Frank. Thank you for all the work you do for the Kingdom of God ✝️♥️

[djcoolrule]

Truly enjoy your platform and the knowledge you share. God bless.

[cisuminocisumino]

Even if they didn't die as matryrs(they obviously did), I cant imagine the disciples would choose to spend their entire life being bruised and beaten over some fantasy they made up. The way they lived their lives is a perfection reflection of what they truly believed.

[marcus]

Excellent point. You can't just invent an alternative scenario nearly 2000 years later, and demand to be proven wrong.

[Kahless_the_Unforgettable]

This objection isn't based on logic. It's obvious to anyone who has the ability to think, even a little bit.

1: They are being put to death for being a Christian.
2: They don't need permission to recant.
3: If they knew it was false, they obviously would recant. Just like the Mormons did.
4: If any of them did recant, they would have been paraded down the street. But none did.

How much more valuable would Peter have been as a recanted Christian that as a martyr? His value as a living racanter would have been INFINITELY more than as a martyr!!! The whole point was to end the dangerous new cult (Rome's words, not mine). Martyrs tend to increase membership. But a high level recanter could have ended it right there.

[harryfaber]

May the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
enlighten the eyes of our hearts,
that we may know what is the hope
that belongs to our call.

[jameshanks]

Harvest is ripe! We need more Harvesters

[richmle]

I believe that if one of the Apostles had tried to denounce Jesus to avoid whatever punishment was being imposed, the historians of the day would have made note of that.

[familyonamissiongo]

Same way I believe/ know that Julius Cesar existed, it was recorded by both non Christian and Christian sources that recorded their lives and beliefs that were written within 100 years of their lives

[cheesemaster]

Can I get prayer for my ex's salvation please her name is Gisselle

[jonathanwick]

No sceptic denies the apostles faced great adversity for their faith. Especially Paul later on. Martyr death of Paul, Peter and James brother of Christ are pretty certain

[IsaiahINRI]

I think he misunderstood the question. The question wasn't whether them being martyred works as evidence to their testimony, the question was whether we can say they were actually martyred at all given "no historical evidence."

I'm not saying they weren't martyred, I think they were, but that was the question.

[Jesus-Yeshua-saves]

How did the apostles died? all thoses informations are from history and church tradition anybody can check them
Andrew
He preached in Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey, and Greece, where he is said to have been crucified.

Philip
He possibly had a powerful ministry in Carthage in North Africa and Asia Minor, where he converted the wife of a Roman proconsul. In retaliation, the proconsul had Philip arrested and cruelly put to death.

Thomas
He was probably most active in the area east of Syria. Tradition has him preaching as far east as India, where the ancient Marthoma Christians revere him as their founder. They claim that he died there when pierced through with the spears of four soldiers.


Bartholomew
He had widespread missionary travels attributed to him by tradition: to India with Thomas and back to Armenia, Ethiopia, and Southern Arabia. There are various accounts of how he met his death as a martyr for the gospel.

James
He was the son of Alpheus and is one of at least three James referred to in the New Testament. There is some confusion as to which is which, but this James is reckoned to have ministered in Syria. The Jewish historian Josephus reported that he was stoned and then clubbed to death.

Simon, the Zealot
As the story goes, he ministered in Persia and was killed after refusing to sacrifice to the sun god.

Matthias
He was the apostle chosen to replace Judas. Tradition sends him to Syria with Andrew and to death by burning.

John
The only one of the apostles generally thought to have died a natural death from old age. He was the church leader in the Ephesus area and is said to have taken care of Mary the mother of Jesus in his home. During Domitian's persecution in the middle '90s, he was exiled to the island of Patmos. There he is credited with writing the last book of the New Testament--the Revelation. An early Latin tradition has him escaping unhurt after being cast into boiling oil in Rome.

[ike]

Whether they recanted or not, know that there's no Hope for humanity without Yeshua the Messiah, our Lord and Saviour.

[jeffphelps]

CE reallly puts a logical foundation to the Christian faith

[festushaggen]

Of course not. It's well known that the Scribes and Pharisees as well as the Romans welcomed Christianity with open arms. Caesar quickly abandoned his throne for Christ and the apostles were modern day celebrities. Christians were loved by the secular world as much as they are today.

[YEYGAHH]

The simpler answer: You don’t need to be given the option to “recant” to be considered a martyr.

The apostles knew the consequences for preaching the gospel could lead to death, yet they continued anyway. The option to “recant” is irrelevant to their martyrdom. They were killed for what they SAW.

[jesusislord]

If any of the disciples renounced Jesus, everyone would have stopped following him pretty quickly. That didn’t happen.

[Sebastianx]

Me personally if i was a apostle and i didn’t believe then i would not continue the religion and re locate somewhere safe

[gingercake]

Yes, it’s time to make unbelievers come up with evidence that God doesn’t exist. It is time make them prove their proclamations. They are trolling videos of faith giving their opinions like their opinions are facts. Now they prove they are right.