Mark's Gospel gets FIXED by Christians @bartdehrman

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Professor Bart D. Ehrman:
Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He began his teaching career at Rutgers University, and joined the faculty in the Department of Religious Studies at UNC in 1988, where he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department.

Professor Ehrman completed his M.Div. and Ph.D. degrees at Princeton Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude. An expert on the New Testament and the history of Early Christianity, has written or edited thirty books, numerous scholarly articles, and dozens of book reviews.

Bart Ehrman on Bible Secrets
In addition to works of scholarship, Professor Ehrman has written several textbooks for undergraduate students and trade books for general audiences. Six of his books have been on the New York Times Bestseller list: Misquoting Jesus; God’s Problem; Jesus Interrupted; Forged; and How Jesus Became God. His books have been translated into twenty-seven languages.

Mark is at the same time the most brilliant AND most underrated Gospel of the New Testament, with a sophisticated understanding of Jesus that is so nuanced most readers simply never see it!

Did Mark have first-hand knowledge of Jesus’ life or was he just makin’ stuff up?
Explore the answer to this and other controversial questions in this 8-lecture online course where Dr. Bart Ehrman unpacks The Gospel of Mark showing how its narrative contains clever subtleties and numerous surprises that make it one of the most intriguing pieces of literature from the early years of Christianity.
Other controversial questions covered in this 8-lecture course include:

Why don’t most readers today recognize the highly unusual way Mark portrays Jesus and the meaning of his life?

For Mark, how can Jesus be the expected destroyer of God’s enemies and the king of the Jewish people, if he was himself rejected by them, captured, and publicly tortured to death? Isn’t that the opposite of the “Messiah”?

Why in Mark (unlike the other Gospels) does none of Jesus’ close relations realize who he really is? Not the Jewish leaders? Not those hearing his message? His neighbors? His companions? His closest disciples? His mother?

Does the Gospel of Mark portray Jesus as God?

Is Mark’s account an accurate portrayal of what the historical Jesus himself said and did? Or is it a portrayal that shapes Jesus’ life and ministry according to Mark’s own theological understanding of Jesus? Could it be both?

Did Mark have first-hand knowledge of Jesus’ life, or is most of his information second-, third-, or fourth-hand? Is he just makin’ stuff up?

How did later copyists of Mark’s Gospel change what he said to create a different story? Have any of these changes misled readers away from Mark’s original message?

The Gospel of Mark is the oldest of the four canonical gospels and of the three synoptic Gospels. It tells of the ministry of Jesus from his baptism by John the Baptist to his death, burial, and the discovery of his empty tomb. There is no miraculous birth or doctrine of divine pre-existence, nor, in the original ending (Mark 16:1–8), any post-resurrection appearances of Jesus. It portrays Jesus as a teacher, an exorcist, a healer, and a miracle worker. He refers to himself as the Son of Man. He is called the Son of God, but keeps his messianic nature secret; even his disciples fail to understand him. All this is in keeping with Christian interpretation of prophecy, which is believed to foretell the fate of the messiah as suffering servant. The gospel ends, in its original version, with the discovery of the empty tomb, a promise to meet again in Galilee, and an unheeded instruction to spread the good news of the Resurrection of Jesus.

Most scholars date Mark to c. 66–74 AD, either shortly before or after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD. They reject the traditional ascription to Mark the Evangelist, the companion of the Apostle Peter – which probably arose from the desire of early Christians to link the work to an authoritative figure – and believe it to be the work of an author working with various sources including collections of miracle stories, controversy stories, parables, and a passion narrative. It was traditionally placed second, and sometimes fourth, in the Christian canon, as an inferior abridgement of what was regarded as the most important gospel, Matthew; the Church has consequently derived its view of Jesus primarily from Matthew, secondarily from John, and only distantly from Mark.

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[zainiabdullah]

Consider this:

The Last 12 Verses of the Gospel According To Mark.

"The last 12(twelve) verses of the commonly received text of Mark are absent from the two oldest Greek manuscripts from the Old Latin Codex Bobiensis, the Sinaiticus Syriac manuscript, about one hundred Armenian manuscripts and the two oldest Georgian manuscripts ... they are the work of an author other than the evangelist."
- from "Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament."

[Magx]

Bart is right, Arians weren’t Unitarians. Also Arians are like 4-5 groups. Not to mention that they anathematize Photinus who was a Unitarian at the Synods of Sirmium.

[Magx]

Been taking the Tabor course and it’s really good.

[thli]

I don't feel like Mark thinks Jesus was the son of David. It's just others who call him that.

[tomboughan]

Rabbi Hillel who lived just before Jesus said, "We are all sons of God and God is our Father."

[woflmanjoe]

Great interview with Dr. Dehrman, though I must admit I'm a little surprised you didn't ask him about "Secret Mark" or "Long Mark" as was cited by Clement of Alexandria, especially in reference to "why" Jesus spoke in parables so people wouldn't understand. I just think his answer would have been interesting.

[jerryhogeweide]

Mark was reading Isa 53 and the image he had was taken from that. Jesus didn’t have to do anything else because Mark seemed to understand that passage and read about his ‘deaths’ as in plural. There’s two separate lives described.

[edwardmiessner]

I think the reason Mark has this Messianic secret going on at the time is that nobody during Pilate's tenure as Prefect even knew of a contemporary Messianic figure. In fact, when you read Paul, time and again you're going to run across Paul proclaiming "Christ crucified" (Messiah impaled in an especially disgusting way) as HIS gospel, a mystery of the ages to be revealed at "the end time" meaning HIS day and age when he started proclaiming it. The Nazorean Jews that knew the historical Jesus (if any) didn't know ANY of this.

[EdwardM-tp]

This was before Neal discivered Dr Ammon Hillman

[ΑΝΤΩΝΗΣΣΜΥΡΝΙΟΣ]

I think, the first followers of jesus, didnt believe he was resurrected at the third day after crucifiction. They believed that, jesus will be the first human who will rise when the time of the eschaton will come.

[tryme]

It's not Mark's gospel
It's The Gospel of Jesus Christ according to Mark.

[genernator]

Mark was the first gospel. Mark was not an apostle. Many people believe that he was writing some of Peters' experiences as a third person testimony. As good as it was it was incomplete and I believe it stirred the heart of Matthew - who was an apostle - to give a more detailed and informed personal account of the life of Jesus and the things that he taught. John took it to another level and Luke - not an apostle but a physician- investigated these things for himself and conducted interviews to confirm whether or not these things were so.

[zyxmyk]

i just took a course on Mark. My only unanswered question is why Jesus told parables and then told his disciples he didn't explain them to people, "Lest they turn again and be forgiven." why would he not want people to be forgiven? did he really want them to burn in hell? I don't get that at all and the online course i took made no provision for asking questions.

[danielpaulson]

All of these stories are framed on the monomyth. Adjustments have been made. Just look at the first creation and the first Noah calling. They were added in later to include additional information. Start of creation myth and start of monomyth. Various parts of the Bible have obviously been tweaked. They aren't history.

[JoeSiegfried]

Trying to explain the inexplicable seems to be the way of humanity!

[davidm]

The reason Jesus referred to himself and was referred to by others as "the son of man" is because he was speaking of his physicality. He was emphasizing the fact that he was no different from anyone else, and that all were not only capable of doing the same, but were commanded to. Jesus' abilities to heal, preach, cast out demons, came to him after his experience in the Syrian wilderness. Without this same type of experience (notice it's not walking to the front of any church and reciting words), people will not be capable of the same. He also said, , "greater works shall you do". He did not achieve any of his great works because of some inherent divine ability that he alone possessed, or same great "faith", it was due to his opening his awareness to Divine Consciousness. This escapes almost all "christians" because they've not ever been told the real truth behind Jesus' life. Without divorcing Jesus from "christianity", you will never arrive at understanding these basic truths. Christianity was an invention of the roman priesthood striking a compromise between the roman mysteries and the distorted teachings of Paul (who, if you recall, was from Tarsus, the capitol of Mithraism). Christianity is nothing more than mithraism with roman cult accoutrements. Jesus himself told the Pharisees how men were on the same level as God, they couldn't see or agree with this because they kept to the law and basically pagan rituals of blood sacrifice. They knew, and the people knew, they were totally incapable of performing ANY of the miracles Yeshua performed.

[acyutanandadas]

let's get Bart and Rabbi Tovia together

[MrBlazingup]

That is part of all the Dying and Rising Gods, to be Sacrificed, and a painful one at that, some cut up into many pieces, Horus, hangs Set/Seth on a cross, spears him in the side and cuts off his Ding-Dong, used the blood from it on the land for next years growth, and it's the rising of the Ding-Dong that allows the growth of Man. LOL, it was the 14th part of Osiris, the part need to create Horus. Ophiuchus is the 13th, between Scorpio, the Sexual Organ, and Sagittarius, Hips & Thighs(Butt Too), making Ophiuchus the Womb.

[CorpusChristi]

Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

[francismarcoux]

Its like playing to a saint after he dies. Miracle happens from.interceeding to.good