Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon Review - New Ubuntu Base, Same Mint

Linux Mint 22 upgrades the popular distribution's base to Ubuntu 24.04, but not much else - for better or worse. Is it time for Mint to finally switch away from Ubuntu? The latest release is solid - but it does raise the question, is it time for a change?

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[tenfourproductionsllc]

They already give you the chance to do with LMDE (debian edition). And yet 95% of LM users use the ubuntu version... The only time LMDE gets any attention is when a new version of it comes out. Mint is meant to be steady and if staying the same means boring, well, that's their goal, Linux Mint works.

[Isjan-ogph]

I use Linux Mint Debian Edition and it runs super smooth and very stable. Recently installed it on someone's old Lenovo T410S with Windows 7 on it. Everything works like a charm.

[renascence]

Wayland session is still buggy as heck. I don't know when it will be finally ready. Maybe in 24

[mariojpalomares]

I think what's really going on here when it comes to politics. It's not so much of biting the hand that feeds. It's more like, if mint was to let ubuntu go. You can say goodbye to HWE kernels as well as they stated that starting with mint 22, they will be following the ubuntu kernel releases as it happens. Switching to just LMDE to replace ubuntu will lead to a serious regression because of this, creating another issue of its own altogether. Not sure this would be wise for the Mint team to do. This is probably why mint would rather deal with the politics and all.

[namelessuser]

I love the boring Linux Mint. 😁 It just stays out of the way and lets me do whatever i have to do.

[TangBengYong]

I prefer them to stay on Ubuntu mainly because a lot of third party Windows programmes that have a linux version only support Ubuntu. Eg. games, VPN clients.

[agostinhomatos]

Obviously there are 'under the hood' reasons for still using ubuntu which we don't know. However ubuntu seems to have better driver support than debian, a more recent kernel version, plus some tools developed by Canonical that don't exist in debian.

[DV-mlfm]

Why is every upgrade of cinnamon looks the same from previous versions. It's needs a new look very badly.

[warthunder]

I do agree I think the Debian Edition should eventually take over. I'm sure too they are questioning doing all this work to make Ubuntu work for them. Even still driver support with Ubuntu is better... which is why I have it around on systems where I need drivers / driver support.

[motoryzen]

6:45 to 6:59 While I definitely agree with the points you made here ...Unfortunately for me...the main reason I don't switch and can't switch to LMDE with my main rig is because any kernel lower than 6.5 won't work right with my 7900 xtx video card. I don't recall if there is a terminal command involving something like " sudo apt install linux-oem-24.04(insert letter here) -y " to install a newer kernel right out of the gate in LMDE 6 - might be something worth experimenting with - but for now..I'm sort of stuck on regular Mint

[tubeDude]

I ONLY use Mint. I hate the direction Ubuntu is going! 😒

[KomradeMikhail]

If you like Mint, simply try LMDE for a while instead... The majority of users will never notice a difference... And the more users that switch to LMDE, the more incentive they have to switch and make it the base version.

[MrSaywutnow]

I think the concept of an OS being "boring" is kind of silly to me, as I've found that the word is usually used as a synonym for stable or dependable.
I'm still somewhat new to the world of Linux, but Mint seems to do everything I need it to do without making a fuss.
Hell, version 22 appears to have eliminated some minor issues I was having with video playback in 21.3.
If the Mint team can continue to deliver, then I'll stick with it.
Jay does raise a valid point with them taking on an increasing workload with Thunderbird etc. - hopefully they can handle it.

[robertmurphy]

LMDE kernels are too old. That is why must users use Mint basic.

[javabeanz]

After watching Chris Titus try adding Ubuntu based repos to Debian, I think that I know why Linux Mint keeps the Ubuntu Base. And the downgrades are because of the crap Gnome keeps pulling.

[jamesdim]

I'd rather have the latest ubuntu based packages rather than older (even though more stable) debian packages. I also want the latest kernel. So the ubuntu base makes more sense for me.

[Guergeiro]

My prediction is that Ubuntu 24.04 will be the last version of Ubuntu that Mint pulls from. My understanding is that removing Ubuntu's stuff is getting harder and harder so the switch may happen so that instead of removing stuff from Ubuntu, they add Ubuntu goodies to Debian. The final product would be the same, the effort would be less and maube they shift focus into other issues.

[jagdtigger]

A healthy amount of disagreement in a team is not a bad thing. If they agree on everything that is not a team but an echo chamber, which is very

[peterk]

I'm still pretty novice with Linux, which is why I decided to install Mint as dual boot with Windows. I now use Mint for 98% of all my needs. I was pleased to see that this recent Mint update from 21.x to 22.x had a kernel upgrade from 5.x to 6.x. I get the stability and dependency on Ubuntu, but it just feels like things have been changing so fast on the hardware side (ARM >> x86 CPUs - SnapDragon Support, etc) that people with the newest hardware will NEED a newer kernel that is also stable. Let me know if I'm wrong, still consider myself new to this space and this is just my perception.

[hadeseye]

5:54 Mint's history begins in 2006. 2006. So what is so silly about mint team having problems with current decisions of canonical? Mint is 18 years old. Also its goal was always to be better than ubuntu. Mint is doing same thing canonical was doing with Debian. A spin of it. No wonder they have something to say. Especially when it comes to .deb vs snap. The pt all ubuntu users are using comes from mint. You had apt-get before that. Small change but making life a little bit better. Cinnamon is yet another one. Not that ludicrous Unity that was used in 2 or 3 distros that ended as quick as they showed up.