Top Rope Solo with Petzl Micro Traxion and Climbing Technology RollnLock

This video explains a nice discovery I made using both devices for top rope solo. Try it and let me know if it works for you!

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[JustinWallace]

It is nice to see information on specific use cases for these devices. Thanks for the tip!

[johnliungman]

Great info. Just experienced the same thing myself and could not figure out the problem! Most of the time I like to use two ropes, that solves the problem of course, but if the route is long I cant double my climbing rope and have to climb on a single. Thanks for sharing!

[Mondetreking]

The best idea is to use a different ropes for each divise.

[ismaelcaberofayos]

Thank you for sharing so much information.
I am going to refer to the method you indicate in this video of solo climbing using two different devices. I am a beginner climber with very little experience and I have a question that I don't quite understand. It is obvious that climbing is a sport that involves many risks and everyone warns that solo climbing is even riskier, but when I compare this technique that you show for solo climbing with the more usual technique of a climber with a belayer (traditional?), I realise that in the event of a fall you stop almost immediately, whereas in a 'traditional' climb with a belayer the stop is spread over several metres and you are in a way dependent on the good work of the belayer. So I wonder WHY this particular case of solo climbing is more dangerous than climbing with a belayer, from my 'beginner' point of view it seems much safer, I just don't understand it. If anyone can explain it to me, I would appreciate it.

[danielguerravillarreal]

What is your perspective on using two microtraxions?

[SignoHC]

Hi Jann! I use like you rock n roll on the top and as a back up the kong duck.. is that ok in your opinion?

[jackberdine]

I think people prefer to use a gri- gri because you can bail out at any point in case of emergency.

[Friendfox]

so the gist of it is that the rollnlock is lower friction than the microtrax? probably means you always want the lower friction device above as your primary device. I use a ropeman2 as my secondary, I'll test swapping their order and see if I get the bunching you describe.

[Givicencio]

Do you think it would be dangerous to have the Roll-N-Lock attached to a chest harness made with slings and NOT attach it to the bottom harness (belay loop)?
(Considering I also have a microtraxion attached to the belay loop)

[PathofCultivation]

Is it ok to use a nanotraxion at the top, and an ATC belay at bottom on a single rope?

[Sinar-P]

I'm about to buy a couple of devices for top rope solo Would you recommend using 2 micro traxions or use the combination in the video. I'm not bothered which I just want to make the right choice unless you have another suggestion. I did think of the petzl asap.

[fordguyfordguy]

Or similar question, would it also be just as safe and convenient to couple microtrax with an ASAP?

[fordguyfordguy]

So based on the video and reading comments - are you saying you are basically using redundant devices for safety? As in Micro Trax plus Rollnlock just in case one fails? If that is the idea, why not same principle for using Petzl Grigri or RIG for self belay? Both those are the sole mechanical connection to the rope and everyone seems fine with that, unless you are also saying that even with a belay device you need secondary such as Petzl ASAP ?

[specialforest]

When a micro traxion is on top, does it play a role of main catching device?

[specialforest]

You watch new Yann's video - you smash like! As simple as that :)

[johnhomie]

Why not have the uascend on top. It feeds so smooth.

[Cobra]

I've always used a micro on top and a Petzl Croll on the bottom when I use to tr solo. I haven't gone in a while but I recently thought would be good practice to have a unit on top that does not have teeth. I saw in one of your other replies that might just be and issue if the system has slack in it. Is that correct and what do you think about the Croll? Thank you for the videos Yann

[romanrogowski]

Hey Jann, great video! Does using a toothed device (such as the Micro Traxion) on bottom increase the risk of ripping the rope sheath in the event the primary device fails? Wouldn't it be similar to the risk of using the toothed device on top and taking a fall with ~1ft slack in the system?

[BowlineDandy]

I use a rollnlock for my cache loop management for LRS

[lucadondoni]

Hi! Interesting system. Could it also go well with aid climbing? I use ladders with Petzl Adjust and have never done top rope solo, but always with a partner. Thanks so much!!!!