5 Trains That FAILED, But Later SUCCEEDED | History in the Dark

Sometimes, locomotives can run into trouble early on. Whether it be minor or major design faults, engines of all kinds are rarely perfect from the start. Occasionally, these problems are so terrible that the design is considered a complete failure. But sometimes these flawed locomotives are given a second chance, and through modification, come out as startling successes. Here's five times where that exact thing happened.

0:00 - Intro
1:01 - ACL Class R-1
3:15 - NBR H class
7:07 - LMS Jubilee Class
8:58 - L&YR Class 8
10:36 - LS&I Class SC-4

"The Atlantic Coast Line R-1 was a class of 12 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotives built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1938 and operated by the Atlantic Coast Line Railroad until the early 1950s. They were immediately assigned to passenger service but eventually saw service pulling freight."

"The North British Atlantic, later known as NBR Class H, and then as LNER Class C11 was a class of 4-4-2 steam locomotive of the North British Railway. The class was designed by William P. Reid, Locomotive Superintendent of the NBR, and entered service under his direction. They were the heaviest, longest, and most powerful (by tractive effort) locomotives ever employed on the North British Railway."

"The London Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) Jubilee Class is a class of steam locomotive designed for main line passenger work. 191 locomotives were built between 1934 and 1936. They were built concurrently with the similar looking LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0. They were nicknamed Red Staniers (due to their crimson liveries) and Jubs."

"The Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway (L&YR) class 8 was a four-cylinder 4-6-0 express passenger locomotive designed by George Hughes introduced in 1908."

"Lake Superior and Ishpeming Railroad No. 18 is a preserved class SC-4 2-8-0 "Consolidation"-type steam locomotive. It was built by the American Locomotive Company in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, for the Lake Superior and Ishpeming Railroad in 1910 as engine No. 11. It was renumbered 18 in 1923. It was used for pulling carloads of iron ore, as well as some passenger trains on branch lines, until it was retired in 1962. In 1963, it was sold to Marquette and Mount Huron tourist railroad, but it never operated there. It was sold to the Lake States Steam Association in 1985, and it was stored at the Nicolet Badger Northern Railroad in Laona, Wisconsin. In 1989, it became the first locomotive to be restored and operated by the Grand Canyon Railway, and it pulled tourist excursions between Williams, Arizona and the Grand Canyon National Park, until 2002. In 2007, it was sold to the Mount Hood Tourist Railroad in Oregon to pull excursions there. Just a few months later, it was sold again to Rio Grande Scenic Railroad to pull more excursions between Alamosa and La Veta, Colorado until 2013. In 2021, No. 18 was purchased by the Maguire Foundation, and it was moved to Boyertown, Pennsylvania to be operated by the Colebrookdale Railroad Preservation Trust."

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[knowlesy]

There's a huge lack of L&YR and LNWR engines preserved, even though those were some of the biggest companies ever.

[isaiahwilliams]

Damn, the R-1's were so beautiful.

Also, would love to see a video on #18.

[AmericanFireBird]

I'm not sure if you know this, but one of the LMS Jubilee Class engines numbered 45637 "Windward Islands" was scrapped after her accident at Harrow and Wealdstone in 1952. She was the third, I would say, to be scrapped.

[lemin]

Finally, someone talked about the R1’s, one of my favorite locomotives. I absolutely adore the r1’s.

[tylergreen]

ATLANTIC COAST LINE R-1s!! Thank you!!! Finally someone will talk about them. The R-1s where some of the biggest steam locomotives that ran in Florida

[zacm.]

so uh, pronunciation note: the 'Keigh' part of Keighley is said like Keith, so Keith-ley, and the 'Tyse' part of Tyseley is said like ties, so Ties-ley.

[Thelefevrefever]

Video Idea!! Top 5 Worst Rebuilt Locomotives

[ianiant]

I'd say Henry from the Railway Series is also an example of a bad engine made successful.

[IraDeathViper]

You should do the Frisco 2-10-2 Spot Series for this list, were somewhat deemed failures, eventually rebuilt to 4-8-2s and ended up being absolute chad-like engines until they got scraped.

[LMS]

Jubilees are my favorite class of a secondary express engine I didn’t know they were unsuccessful originally until you made this video.

[ordinaldragoon]

I'd like to see the Highland Railway (Caledonian) River Class and the BR Britannia's talked about in a second part. The former were deemed overweight for the HR but were actually fine and ended up working there after falling into the hands of the LMS after the grouping. The latter were like the Jubilees with several issues after they were built but modified to become BR's best steam locos.

[livetsteamrob]

one class I was expecting and would be good if you do a follow up video is BR Duke of Gloucester as it was a failure in service but was fixed in preservation, an interesting and unique story in it's own right

[buecomet]

This is an interesting top 5 and im here for it

[Sassymouse]

These trains became really useful engines!

[VincentBrigance]

Quick thing to note about the LMS Jubilees, the picture you included with the smoke deflectors are actually members of the Rebuilt Jubilee class, and Sierra Leone is not the name of a preserved Jubilee, rather classmate 45699 Galatea is masquerading as them

[HazelofStarfleet]

Duke of Gloucester would be a wonderful addition for this list.

[AmityBlightAndSPFan]

Maybe you should do 5 more of the best trains Part 7! And hopefully you should add the Nickel Plate Road S Class 2-8-4 Berkshires because 2 of them #765 and #759 have been an excursion service in the preservation era!

[Jimboliah]

Seriously though, when it comes to those Atlantic Coast Northerns, *what is up with those convex pilot wheels?*

[neilsonthegreat]

Why is the NBR Reid H class Atlantic on there

[Palatinarien]

A topic that u could talk about are maybe Frankenstein locomotives (locomotives build from parts form serveral diffrent locomotives).
Best example in my opinion is the german DR BR 18 201 with a top speed of 180kp/h.