OLED BURN IN! STILL A CONCERN?

Hello everyone this is a A discussion on if oled burn in is still a concern or a thing of the past . We also have footage of actual burn in. Hope you enjoy and I'll see you in the comments.

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[lonniewilliamson]

This is the reason I bought a QN90A last year. I know my chances of getting burn in were very small, but I am the type that would worry about it constantly thus making me uncomfortable using it. I am very happy with my decision though. I have an extremely bright bedroom and the QN90A works wonderfully in it. Very happy with it.

[Grawbad]

OLED is organic, so no matter how cool you keep it the pixels will begin to dim. All the tech they put in there to help it does help but will still only delay the issue of dimming over time. Pixel refreshers and things like that only serve to dim pixels that haven't dimmed as much as pixels that have which would cause burn in, so effectively shortening the life of the display.
One thing to remember about reviewers is they use less of each TV over time. They are constantly replacing their TV's and utilizing a lot of panels whereas those of us at home are pretty much exclusively using only one.
No matter what you do, perfect environment and all, these TV's do have a time limit. Organic's are Organic as it were. So the brightness of a TV on day one will differ from a the brightness of a TV on year 5. Especially color brightness.
What burn in is, is not a pixel actually being burned in to only show an image that isn't there, what it is, is a collection of pixels that are dimmer than other pixels on a screen. They get this way from displaying a brighter image than other pixels next to it and no matter what you do there will be uneven usage of an entire panel.
So again, I don't care what any youtuber says, even if you can perfectly take care of a panel so as not to have "Burn in", the pixels all over time will grow dimmer and dimmer until it is a shade of it's former self. Nothing can prevent this decay. Nothing can bring these organics back to new.
The only tech that will alleviate this issue won't use Organics and will have the same inky blacks as OLED, this tech is coming but seems to still be a bit of a ways out but we are getting closer with Mini LED. The tech I am talking about is Micro LED. Its real, it is in the wild, but it is also not been mass produced yet.
Once that bomb drops though it will be the clear choice over OLED. Each pixels will have it's own LED, nothing is organic. So the black levels and contrast and brightness will be there with NO BURN IN.
I am certainly not saying to "not" buy an OLED. I have a Switch with an OLED screen. My phone has one. I have an OLED TV. The difference between me and people asking if these TV's will burn in is that I already know there is a time limit on them and I am fine with that.

[LordOlbermann]

My biggest fear is if a image of my ex-mother in law get burnt in. 🤪

[Dartman]

Well I'll probably never know but I'd think burn in should be a lot less of a concern with all the new tech and image control to keep it from overheating.

[ye-rochawkins]

My phone died during the stream! Someone asked me how many hours it took me to acquire burn in/permanent IR/dead pixels on my CX. What I can say, is that I started seeing issues around 5, 000 hours, and it continually got worse, up til I got rid of the set, which was close to 10, 000 hours. (Yes I’m aware that’s a lot of hours). I used this CX, as my test case, if I’m being honest. I never trusted OLED. Not WRGB, not RGB, not AMOLED, etc. What made me start believe in OLED, is when I got my first iPhone, after having nothing but Samsung phones, that acquired burn in, in entirety too short of time. Anyways, I got an iPhone using the same AMOLED displays that were in my Galaxy phones. Had zero issues, and am still using my first iPhone to this date, with zero issues. And I use my phone A LOT!

So yeah, that made me feel a little more comfortable with OLED. It told me that it all has to do with how the panel is being driven, and the software in place, to prevent such issues. I think a lot of it has to also do, with Apple targeting accuracy, vs Samsung targeting bright and vivid, accuracy pushed aside. And yes, I’m aware we’re comparing different OLED technologies at their core, but it’s still OLED, and gave me fears when purchasing a $2000 OLED TV.

But yeah, I purchased a warranty as a fail safe, in case the CX didn’t work out after testing it in my use case. As it was my first OLED TV purchase ever. In all honesty, the CX was more than usable when I got rid of it. The dead pixels that kept popping up, is what really made me want to use my warranty. Bc I was losing almost a pixel a day it felt. All in all tho, the CX didn’t impress me as much as I hoped. I came from nothing but high end LCD/QLEDs, and was a little underwhelmed, mainly by the color performance/volume in HDR content. I was just missing HDR impact some. Well, I can say that the C2 gave me that back. The C2 just reminds me more of a QLED, in terms of color/color volume, and brightness, while still having the contrast advantage. The CX left me feeling like I was missing out a little. Also, the CX felt like it was being pushed to the absolute max. For instance…when pushed to be bright, color became quite diluted. It just could have a almost washed out appearance, in comparison to the C2…especially when using things like DTM. The C2 pushes colors even harder, where the CX tried, but just washed the colors out. Also, the faint lines/bands in bright whites, drove me up a wall. Again, it was like the panel was being pushed too hard. No such issues on my C2. Anyways…I’ve written enough lol

[brokenwrench]

When I bought my c8 4 years ago I bought the extra Best Buy Ins because of the fear of burn in. I would game on it daily 4-6 hours and would turn it off when paused out of the burn in fear. Eventually I stopped caring and now my tv has over 14, 600 hours on it with no signs of burn in from direct tv channel logos or minimap or hud displays from my games. I let it do it’s pixel refresh on its own and just turn it on and off nowadays. It’s been a great tv

[chashint]

I fear the bent/twisted panel on the s95b more than burn in.

[tempo]

I think manufacturers backing their product against burn in like LG did on the G series would go a long way in changing perception and consumer confidence.

[lilpain]

yes... Its literally inevitable. It will always be a concern and although OLED is amazing, I advise most to not bother unless you know you can swap it out in 2years or so. Thing is many do not know how to test for burn in and just say I have no burn in after 10, 000 hours... But they do, they just don't see it in under normal use.

[iWasimAbbas]

I believe burn-in is still a concern as we just finding out the problem on 3 year old models, I believe we'll find out about the modern OLED i.e. CX, C1, C2... in next two to three years to be certain when there is enough data.

[jeffreyrodriguez]

Like you I'm an LED fan and enjoying the U9DG will jump to self emissive when there is 77 QD OLED. great video!

[joeylo]

I was at the best buy in West LA last night and I saw the S95B for demo already had burn-in. The staff told me the tv had been there for only 2 weeks and i was totally shocked.

[edwinwebber]

I bought my Vizio 55 2 years ago. Still looks great, and its Vizio! Definitely OLED is the way to go!

[mbj]

I must admit as an led owner, burn in does not always look worse than DSE (dirty screen effect)

[jennermcdougall]

Hello Whisper it is content just like this one that keeps me coming back. As a consumer and newbie to oled I have come to really luv the picture quality that I have gotten from my LG c9. Burn in was my only concern because I do watch a lot of tv conten, sports, news and some gaming with huds/ static logos but thankfully I have not had any issues and I am still In awe of the image it produces. Thank you for sharing the images of other users and their panels, it is really eye opening to see the technology evolve and mature. Some of the panels having burn in does cause concern but I am happy to hear that newer oleds do not suffer as the older ones did. It is also wonderful to hear about the saturation and brightness of the c8/9 as they just validate my decision to purchase one and i am greatful to bea able to enjoy it until my next upgrade which I am hoping will be a q-oled. I want to see a larger size and maturity before pulling the trigger. Take care friend and thanks for your great content.

[terryprickett]

I have a 55 inch CX with 9000 hours of time on it and started to show burn-in at about 5000-6000 hours. The burn-in is from playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey. I do use this for PC, TV and PS5.I do have Best Buy warrantee on this panel. Which I will use at some point in the near future. But I will replace it with another OLED panel when the time comes.

[michaelwyckoff]

Hey B still no burn in and I watch my TV a lot. I think maybe I've only pixel cleaned or shift once or twice in almost 2 years. I'm into OLED now and the technology regarding burn in has definitely gotten much better.

[bumpsy]

I have a b6 and yes it has the uneven pixel wear(what they call burn in on OLEDS). And what I have noticed is what has changed in reference to this discussion, is just like grief, the industry was in a state of denial saying that burn in did not exist. Then evolved to burn in exist only when people misuse they're product they bought by treating it like every other tv from last 50 years, with the exception of early plasma and some projection tvs. Then to it was just some bad panels, to yeah maybe it existed after all, and maybe it could happen under normal use, but now we think it is all behind us. I call BS

[michaelwyckoff]

Hey Brian I thought before I decided to go OLED that I would be one of those people who would get burn in on my TV. 18 months later I have no burn in or image retention on my panel. The technology has definitely improved to prevent possible issues with burn in and image retention.

[hatboxghost]

I have an LG OLED that is about 4 years old. The burn in has been terrible. What's odd is, I can even see the setting circles burning thru and I almost NEVER even have those setting circles on the screen at all, so why do I see those??? Don't know but it was a high end tv at that time, over $3, 000, and now I see burn in all the time, especially if a red background is on the screen. I know the OLED tv's have the best picture but I'm very tempted to purchase a high end QLED tv. I hate to but.... Plus, many of the QLED screens don't reflect my back lights behind me to the screen as bad as the OLED screens do. Thanks for the video.