The Future Mark Zuckerberg Is Trying To Build

The Huge Conversation with Mark Zuckerberg...

I interviewed Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg before Connect. There are not many people with more power over our future. Right now, Mark Zuckerberg and his team are imagining the future billions of people might live in, soon, and building towards it. So, in this conversation, my goal is to figure out what that future looks like. To paint a picture of the future Mark Zuckerberg is trying to build, so that you can decide for yourself what you think of it.

We talked about the Meta's new Orion prototype AR glasses, creating holograms and the Star Trek universal translator, generative AI changing social media, big trends in human connection, open sourced AI, Ray Ban Meta glasses and Quest 3S, the biggest genuine question on his mind right now, and more...

Welcome to the first episode of our new series, Huge Conversations…

Special thanks to Derek Thompson, for his generous guidance on my first long-form interview!

Chapters:
0:00 What is Mark Zuckerberg trying to build?
2:08 Meta's new Orion prototype AR glasses
4:42 How do Meta's Orion glasses work?
6:55 What's the future of AR?
9:50 What's the future of VR?
11:36 What is Meta trying to build?
13:18 Haptics is hard
17:18 Why does VR feel real?
20:16 Why are we having trouble connecting?
24:27 What should we use AI for?
28:17 What wouldn't he want his kids using AI for?
31:47 How will generative AI change social media?
35:43 What concerns does he see as most legitimate?
39:26 Why care about open source?
43:38 What is his biggest genuine question?

Bio:
Cleo Abram is a video journalist who produces Huge If True, an optimistic show about science and technology. Huge If True is an antidote to the doom and gloom, helping a wide audience see better futures they can help build. In each episode, Cleo dives deep into one innovation that could shape the future. She has explored humanoid robots at Boston Dynamics, supersonic planes at NASA, quantum computers at IBM, the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, and more. Every episode mixes high quality animations and detailed scripts with relatable vlog-style journeys, taking the audience along for an adventure to answer the question: If this works, what could go right? Previously, Cleo was a video producer at Vox and directed for Explained on Netflix. She was the host of Vox’s first ever daily show, Answered, as well as co-host of Vox’s YouTube Originals show, Glad You Asked.

Gear I use:
Camera: Sony A7SIII
Lens: Sony 16–35 mm F2.8 GM
Audio: Sennheiser SK AVX and Zoom H4N Pro

Music: Musicbed, Tom Fox

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[JayFriedrichs]

1st podcast episode being Mark Zuckerberg?!! Damn Cleo!

[thelouisjohnson]

Cleo! I'd love to see a short 5/10m segment at the end where you break down your general thoughts on the interview! After speaking to people, I'd be really interested to know more about your thoughts/feelings and personal takeaways!

[Enderman-wwpq]

So glad Cleo is making time for smaller YouTubers and giving them a platform to speak, you go girl ♥️

[ValouroverFear]

Man his hair is a vast improvement. He looks less like a lizard and more like a human. Very convincing!

[garnold-lp]

I need at least $2m today to be considered 'wealthy' 20 years ago, the definition of wealth was nowhere near $2m, and in 20 years time, this amount may not be enough, however I do agree that one has to start somewhere, hence I now look to the stock market to fuel my goal.

[Jasmuddinbha]

there's a book called whispers of manifestation on borlest, and it talks about how using some secret tehniques you can attract almost everything in life it's not some bullshit law of attraction, it's the real deal

[GoldBass]

Chloe: I miss hugging my Mom
Mark: Haptics is hard
Way to human, Mark. Your Empathy Chip is functioning up to 78.9%.

[koenmeloenable]

I'm a parent with pre teenagers and taking advise from Mark about parenting is the worst thing any parent could do. We are so much struggling with their screentime and getting them to play with friends without a screen.
It is clear that these phones are the reason for people having less friends when you grow up with a phone in your hand. If it is up to Mark, our children will grow up with glasses that make everything digital is going to make things worse. And you can think:" I will never buy this for my children" and "it's all the parents fault", but when all the other kids have this tech and find each other online, your kid is the one left behind.
Cool these glasses, but socially, things are only to get worse.

[benjaminbutcher]

Honestly: I BADLY want a great pair of AR glasses, but I DO NOT want that product to be owned and controlled by Facebook. Meta/Facebook have proven over and over again that given the choice between their users and profit, they WILL choose profit. There is no ethical compass for this company. It's not the tech that should scare you. It's the people who own it.

[urosstankovic]

He said he dont know why people have less friend and social media is not to blame, and than he said most people on social media dont interact with friends but with influencers. You dont need calculus for that. 😂

[gregmarkel]

You should ask him if he let's his kids use social media?

[harish-garg]

Cleo, please never release a wallpaper app

[aryandatla]

I love how subtly Cleo questioned the whole existence and impact of social media in our lives and it was really fun to hear Mark's reply.

[bryantmorrill]

The guy who ruined the social fabric of the world and made everyone lonely wants to solve loneliness? He's delusional.

[Tobinator]

he was fighting the urge to blink sideways

[figo]

Rare case of Mark Zuckerberg succeeding in trying to look and be human:

[cernsb]

Oh god, an AI, owned by Meta that sees everything that I see and hears everything that I hear. That sounds like a privacy invasion nightmare

[kidcal]

Seeing Zuckerberg’s reaction when asked why we all have fewer friends now is priceless. Guilt and shame.

[colinnorthmore]

I am so impressed with the obvious and deep preparation that you did for this interview. I have watched so many lost opportunities in interviews because of interviewers trusting that they can wing it. Amazing and I think that your channel should be included in a school’s STEAM curriculum. We are going to put it into ours

[immersokinawa]

Social media should be called anti social media. Calling anything that makes people use technology more than having real life interactions can never be social.