Does Paul Teach the Rapture? - 1 Thessalonians 4

February 23, 1 Thessalonians 4, Does Paul Teach the Rapture?

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[paulbrown]

Thank you. It seems more and more people are moving away from the "rapture" theory and are beginning to see and teach the truth, that the second coming and return of Christ are not separate events but one and the same.

[paulsmodels]

A very controversal topic for sure.
I choose to not argue with other people about this topic, instead I choose to stay my heart and mind on Jesus, and trust that however He chooses to bring me to Himself is fine with me.

[ammizimmerman]

Been learning this by the brother NT Wright too!

[theVelvetAlley]

We can only hope our understanding of grace and forgiveness is as strong as our zeal for eschatology.

[savedwretch]

This is what I always Comment on pre trib videos, And I always get answered that we are not appointed to wrath and I have to answer them. The wrath that is spoken of in revelation is not the same wrath that all people are under when they are unbelievers.

[eddysumlin]

I believe the scripture for the rapture is Revelation 7 :14. It's pretty clear but nobody seems to know it.

[atarahchomah]

What about those people in robes in revelation chapter 7 in the throne room that John saw? What about when Yeshua said, ‘In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?’

[michelefortino]

I was wondering if you could do a more deeper dive into this study- there is so much controversy and that many Christian’s believe we will be taken out of here because Israel receives Gods wrath during the tribulation, amongst my fellow believers- they get angry if I don’t agree. Your knowledge of scripture would be helpful and appreciated

[dalelinebarger]

The church is mentioned in Revelation many times!

[andrewkliss]

The living and the dead are 'snatched up': we ascend to meet Christ. Doesn't mean we stay snatched up floating away to heaven. I would say this is a lesson in semantics.

[eddysumlin]

Chad, What do you think Rev. 7:14 means. I thought it is the rapture.

[jamesrmooresr]

Interesting. That being said, where do you fit the Judgement Seat of Christ (Not White Throne Judgment) and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb into the timeline.

[dalelinebarger]

What is nonsense is that anyone could possibly believe this false narrative of a pretrib rapture! It’s not in scripture! Jesus himself said in John 6 that he would raise all that the Father had given him “ on the last day”. He says it 4 times in that sermon. Lazarus’ sister Martha said the same thing to Jesus. Jesus said in Matt 24 that his return would be after the tribulation of those days and after there were signs in the sun, moon and stars. No where in scripture is it stated that there are two more returns of Jesus. Hebrews 9 says there will be a second return not a second and third! Everywhere in Jesus’ parables he says the return and resurrection is on the last day or end of the age. Pretrib rapture is a false doctrine that has infected most of the church. It’s not in scripture and I’m still waiting for some pretriber to actually show one verse where it is mentioned with a timeline attached! Can’t be done!!

[sherryh]

I don’t think the rapture is the same event as the second coming

[dalelinebarger]

False doctrine is false doctrine! The apostle Paul thought that what Hymenaeus and Alexander and Philetus were teaching was so bad that Paul turned them over to satan so that they would learn to not to blasphemy. What were they teaching? That the resurrection had already taken place! Mind you the resurrection takes place on the last day according to jesus’ words in John 6. These men were upsetting the faith of some people. There is no place for error or false teaching in the church which is the foundation and pillar of truth!

[Andy-ux]

Christ return is JUDGEMENT OF THE QUICK AND THE DEAD... Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his threshing floor, and gather HIS wheat into His garner, but will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.... Matthew 3: 11... this is the separating of the sheep and the goats the wheat and the tares one to the right of him and the other to left.... DON'T be on the left of him...

[MisfitTina]

Nonsense the rapture occurs before the tribulation. Read revelation the church is not mentioned throughout the tribulation. Believers do not face Gods wrath.

[donhaddix]

it does.

Revelation 3:10
10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.


Tereo ek
tay-reh'-o
Verb
NAS Word Usage - Total: 71
1. to attend to carefully, take care of
a. to guard
b. metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is
c. to observe
d. to reserve: to undergo something

Ek
ek
Preposition
NAS Word Usage - Total: 62
1. out of, from, by, away from
harpazō
1) to seize, carry off by force
2) to seize on, claim for one' s self eagerly
3) to snatch out or away