Thor: Love and Thunder — Why Marvel Villains Keep Flopping | Anatomy Of A Failure

Thor: Love and Thunder reunites Thor with Natalie Portman's Jane Foster, who has now become a Thor as well, to take down the evil Gorr played by Christian Bale. Obviously this movie overall is yet another 10/10 as you can always expect from Marvel, but there is one negative aspect here as well: the villain. For some reason Gorr becomes another bland and forgettable MCU villain that you're gonna forget as soon as the movie ends, even despite Christian Bale. We already touched on this topic with Wanda in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but let's look for a couple more reasons why Marvel villains suck and how to avoid those problems ourselves.

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Thor: Love and Thunder (2022)
The God of Thunder’s latest adventure—including a trek to Olympus where Zeus (Russell Crowe) reigns supreme. The film finds Thor (Chris Hemsworth) on a journey unlike anything he’s ever faced – a search for self-discovery. But his retirement is interrupted by a galactic killer known as Gorr the God Butcher (Christian Bale), who seeks the extinction of the gods. To combat the threat, Thor enlists the help of King Valkyrie (Tessa Thompson), Korg (Taika Waititi) and ex-girlfriend Jane Foster (Natalie Portman), who – to Thor’s surprise – inexplicably wields his magical hammer, Mjolnir, as the Mighty Thor. Together, everything wrong with Thor love and thunder honest trailer thor love and thunder bad movie thor vs gorr fight love and thunder zeus funny moments good movie thor love and thunder best moments only action black and white lady thor natalie portman thor explained thor love and thunder watch full movie online free 4k clips hd screenwriting thor vs zeus love and thunder post credits mistakes bad cgi terrible cgi doctor strange 2 multiverse of madness the wanda problem of madness they embark upon a harrowing cosmic adventure to uncover the mystery of the God Butcher’s vengeance and stop him before it’s too late. Directed by Taika Waititi (“Thor: Ragnarok,” “Jojo Rabbit”) and produced by Kevin Feige and Brad Winderbaum, “Thor: Love and Thunder” opens in U.S. theaters July 8, 2022.

[idaniluz]

Another thing I want to add about the child kidnapping: Gorr believes all gods to be evil, yet he kidnaps the kids assuming that Thor would be selfless enough to risk his life saving them.

[RedDeath]

The fact that Marvel wasted Gorr, one of the best and most interesting Thor's villains in the comics, just makes me even more worried that our hope for Doctor Doom being done justice in the MCU might be doomed.

[CCEkeke]

I feel one of the bigger problems is that we never see Gorr kill any other gods besides Rapu, so we don't get a sense of the threat he truly poses to Thor.

[jlol]

You have Chris Hemsworth who was born to play thor, you have the god butcher storyline from the comics which is absolutely wild and awesome, you have Christian Bale who is an incredible actor and perfect for Gor, and you have the budget of an MCU film... and you ended up making one of the worst movies I've ever seen... That is truly impressive

[xx]

Gor: "Gods don't care about us"

Also Gor: "I'm counting on a God to care in order for my plan to work"

[chadderbug]

Gorr was seriously too good for a slapstick comedy film like this one. That opening scene was incredible.

[thefanwithoutaface]

Sad thing is Gorr could've been Marvel's darkest and most interesting villain. The stuff he did in the comics is horrifying, he's basically Thanos but no restraint and who actively does everything himself. He LOVES what he does and enjoys every second of it.

Instead we got a possibly good character wasted so Waitit could make fifty screaming goat jokes.

[DOOMStudios]

The sad thing about this is Marvel was trying to make us laugh at Thor for all the things he’s been through.

[azureage]

My gripe here is that the mcguffin introduced is basically an omnipotent wishing well, which basically functions the same as collecting all 6 infinity stones. Seems it would be a lot easier for Thanos and his army to chase this 1 mcguffin instead of 6, and still achieve the same results to snap half the universe away.

[MoonWielder]

The best version of Thor was Infinity War, as he was serious, focused, and had a goal of avenging others! Well, as of now, he went from that to turning into a laughing stock. As for Gorr, there was so much missed potential with him. He was undoubtedly the best part of the whole movie, but the fact that he had less screen time just made me so upset. We had the potential for another character to become Thanos level and now, that idea is wasted down the drain.

[SirTowerOfZaid]

Christian Bale was the best thing of the entire movie

[AcousticLeader]

I feel like a lot of Gor's problem could be fixed by him needing to kill lesser gods to power up the necrosword. If this sword is already so powerful why couldn't the previous wielder kill a single god?

Then we could see Gor progress in a linear way as the sword corrupts his body and mind more with each kill. Then we can explain the kidnapping of the kids and stuff as the sword feeding off of his lust for revenge and corrupting him. Nice, neat and still works with the ending we got.

[TheHollowSide]

To be honest I loved the scene where Gore talks to Valkery about how she should be on his side due to the Gods abandoning her and her sisters. If that level of thought was throughout the movie maybe it would have been good.

[rogerhalt]

"Lets make a villain who is a god killer but not show actual killing."
"Lets write a script but throw it in the bin after and let everyone be themselves"

Taika and the writers, probably.

[Gman]

If none of the characters take the threat seriously it’s hard for the audience to take the threat seriously. That scene with all the gods mainly showed the threat not being a big deal

[ericocypriani]

if gorr tryed to confort the kids instead of bullying them, that scene would be way more convincing, and actually scarier, to see a monster kidnapper like gorr trying to be nice with the kids and failing to make them feel safe. It would be consistent once he didn't want to harm the kids, only to have them as hostages. It would be a great character arc if he then consciously attacked the children in the final act, once that would show how far his hatred brought him.

[rogerkincaid]

Christian Bale hesitated to accept the role of Gorr at first. Why? Because of potential scheduling conflicts, but his kids successfully persuaded him take on the role. He arranged his timetable to make it possible. His most commerical venture to date.

Clearly, his dedication is not shared by the filmmakers.

[ideyaa]

@7:40 Gorr using an app while his daughter is dying in his hand is more brutal than anything in the film
😂😂

[DrTimes]

So, I think we could fix a few of the issues here.
1) Like was suggested, have Gorr need Zeus' Lightning bolt in order to get his wish. 1 wish = Necro-blade ( a weapon that can kill anything) and the Spark of Life ( a tool that can temporarily imbue and prolong life but not resurrect ).
2) Have Gorr tell Thor that the Spark is the only thing that can defeat him, before taking the kids and leaving.
3) Thor and crew go to god-planet to get the bolt from Zeus.
4) It is revealed the bolt isn't the Spark of Life. In exchange for ruling god-world Zeus gave the real Spark to Odin ages ago
5) Later it is revealed that Odin used the Spark of Life to create Mjolnir. It's Life essence was meant to balance and control Hela (hence why she has it in the past mural), but she abandoned it seeking the flame eternal instead.
6) Jane is only still alive because the Spark of Life inside Mjolnir is keeping her alive, but it can only do so much and she will still die
7) Jane surrenders Mjolnir to save the children, sacrificing herself for them. The catalyst that stops Gorr in his tracks and makes him realize that he's being the baddie.
Now we have a McGuffin quest, a reason for Jane to be there, and a thematic dichotomy between life and death

[chasehedges]

Thor Love And Thunder is one of the most mediocre Marvel movies ever made.