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[Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Helldivers 2 is still blocked from being played in the Majority of countries. Sony sucks.

[ameliamohsin]

Now imagine EGS games require to have Steam account for the games to work.. oh wait Steam doesn't do something scummy like that.

[robovinefilms]

I keep my gaming dirt simple: If my Steam login isn't good enough than that's a pass.

And Cloud support since I use a Steam Deck; still, dirt simple.

[Labib-dwlk]

summary:

Earth Defence 6 required Epic Games Store sign-in for multiplayer. Now Developers are reconsidering this due to backlash.

[kamikaze]

So, I'm one of the people who actually pre-ordered this game. Let me tell you how this sh*t went down.
Being a fan of the franchise, I was watching a Vtuber stream who collab-ed with this game prior to release. Since I NEVER pre-order any games and such, I was wary because this was one of my favorite games of all time. Watching the stream was my way of being able to peek into what the game had without having to buy it for myself. And it went fine. Seeing as the entire stream ended just okay, the game seemed like more of the usual good stuff from the EDF series, and there were no mentions of anything that had my bullsh*t radar tingling other than the cr*ppy DLC starter equipment, I found myself leaning towards pre-ordering purely due to the discount being offered. We all want to save money if we can, right?

And so I pre-ordered the game 48 hours prior to release date. BUT, before doing so, I made sure to check the game's Steam page and even went to check if there were any DLCs being thrown at the customers outright. None so far. No mentions of anything "3rd party" or DENUVO/DRMs and such. I thought as a customer we were safe then. Lo and behold, the moment I get the game on my account (you can't download it yet 24 hours or so prior to release at this point), I could see like 5+ or so DLC equipment on the game's page on my library, but not in the main Steam page for the game. I could even add these items to cart to buy. Obviously, I didn't. But it felt like something was off to me by then.

Release date came (middle of the day here in my locale). I immediate fire the download button and wait for it to complete while watching some YT videos. By the time the game was done downloading, I had to step away and do some real life stuff so I couldn't play yet. Turned off my PC. Several hours later, game time! Or so I thought. I immediately see a post on my Watched Games Feed on the Steam Library, and it was Sandlot/D3 apologizing about the Epic shenanigan. They likely had this post ready beforehand and were simply waiting for the right timing to post it because it was obvious this wasn't going to pass with customers. Strangely too, I run Epic and Steam at roughly the same time everyday to get updates and such, and Epic doesn't even have this game there. I thought to myself how scummy this was, so I tried running the game once, saw that it did download some Epic cr*p, and quit the game. I tried running it a second time (to see if it constantly has to "phone home" every time I run the game, because people have started posting stuff like the offline won't work without the Epic stuff, and voial! The game runs with the Epic and Unreal overlay sh*t, I can hear the sounds, but the game doesn't even appear on my taskbar or alt-tab menu at all. It's in my Task Manager, but I can't "find" the game running. Tried to re-run the thing several times and to no avail. Game is running in permanent "background" mode and cannot be accessed to actually play.

So I pulled up Steam, asked for a refund, and uninstalled the game. Steam decently accepted my report no further questions asked. I can see some idiots white-knighting for corpo bullsh*t like this on the Discussion forums for the game, but I'm keeping my money safe until Sandlot/D3 fixes this. I can spend it on some other game instead if worst comes to worst.

[unnamed]

The "WhAt'S tHe BiG dEaL" people are why we need 30 different launchers installed on our PCs

[thelegendaryqwerty]

Big W FCK epic I always research if a game have epic online services and, don't buy it.

[UncleSev]

Either Steam or GOG. Everyone else (especially Epic) can buzz off.

[RifRafJonesy]

How much do you think egs had lost with exclusive games and all those free games to try and balance the negative feelings. I still won't install egs. I don't think steam is a saint, but they are far better than anything else out there.

[bernardallen]

It's not a win until they do it. They don't even have an eta yet

[LegionIscariot]

Said it before and i will say it again. There is no reason for a game you bought on Steam to require an Epic Games account to play with other Steam users.
Gamers should get angry and should complain when these extra unnecessary requirements are being added to games. People think that this is just about Epic Games but this is part of a much bigger problem with games shoehorning these extra things that you need just to be able to play the game you paid for.
We've reached the point where a game can have up to 5 DRMs.

[suimeingwong]

Imagine when you turn on your PC that you have to click off every developers' sign in every time. Does this not feel abusive.

[darknetworld]

In simple words it just PSN wanted to collect data or they didn't think much of it. As I guess those dev are very busy working their game but at least they get feedback and rework but required time and dev to work and cost.

[marshal]

Hi I am interested in buying ghost of tsushima on instant gaming but got isn't available in my country on steam, my question is will i be able to play it on steam using my account when i buy it on instant gaming

[dach]

Does signing in to epic offer benefits?

[CharlieAdams-vq]

Things like this epic games store sign in fiasco make me realize how much more other people know about the industry than me. Like I get it people don’t like epic games, but why so much hate for epic games and not the likes of Ubisoft or ea? I would assume it is because of data privacy concerns with epic games being connected with china and its associated ethical controversies. A man can wonder even if he will never know the answer. What I think really irks people is how epic games will pay extra money to a developer to make the game exclusive to epic games for a period of time, and a 3rd party sign in for epic games is seen as worse because of these anti-consumer practices.

Can anyone chime in?

[cuzzbaby]

Yeah I feel the reason why concord isn't going to succeed is mainly stemming from the fact that they do require a PSN account. I've mentioned it on an other video but I launched the game saw it required a PSN sign in and deleted the beta. Like wtf Sony, are you guys allergic to money? a few thousand players isn't worth losing half a million dollars.

I do agree with you, that if Sony had it their way they would put in a require PSN+ and premium requirement to play those games. But we already seen how that turned out with games for windows live back in the day. PC players for the most part, hold to their principles.

The trend I have seen a lot recently though, is console players buying PCs, then treating the PC as a Console. There's nothing wrong with that but when you allow companies to keep pushing the bar, we get into situations like this.

[Slvrbuu]

Didn't Helldivers, a game based on, basically, the same idea, have the exact same issue? Sony wanted them to link, people didn't want to, Sony had to capitulate. Why would Epic, a platform people already have misgivings about, think things would go over well for them?

[kaharakahara]

this is the problem with gaming today, you have to think of the future so you should not have fun now. Games are not games anymore.

[menacephilosophical]

Too late already ignored and removed from my wishlist catch me on helldivers 2 in Aug